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Koyi Donita - Student |
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible. Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing. I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth. May God bless us all through his wonderful Word. Quote: For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- Thank you Darth Mobility. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm. |
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DJK - Student |
I know this is kinda out of topic but here goes: How come so many people Trust and belive in something they never seen? And WHY do they belive it? I my self have hard time to belive in god becourse i simply have no proof, and becourse i never got helped by "Him/her" Thanks for listening. -W0oD |
DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student |
It seems to me your taking OLD laws and things prior to justification and applying it to these times. I have read and studied all your points. I sent you my 11 page study on it months ago. You never replied. I am stating the highlights from it here and your still not replying. What are your thoughts on JUSTIFICATION and the study I posted below? I really want to know... Quote: 6. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8, 9 (KJV) AT LEAST ON THIS ONE ABOVE, if NOTHING ELSE In Love, DM _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jul 05 2004 09:31pm. |
Smilykrazy - Retired |
Quote: You need to stop this Family Radio philosophy, because the DO NOT beleive in justification and that is not biblical. They are convincing real CHRISTIANS they are not saved and that is part of, "The elite will be deceived". Please see the truth and realize JUST WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY DID FOR YOU, other than just die for your sins. THERE WAS MORE TO IT THAN JUST THAT!!! DM what we have posted comes straight from the bible. Its not from family radio. It is Gods word. That is what the bible is saying to us. I just wanted to correct you that its no philosophy. Its the word of our lord and God. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 This comment was edited by Smilykrazy on Jul 05 2004 09:26pm. |
Smilykrazy - Retired |
DM and James its hard to explain. I am open to all that you write. But did you ever stop to think, just what if you are wrong? What if you arent saved? There has been millions of theolosians that swear they have the truth but dont. I believe that no one on this entire earth has the whole truth. The bible is loaded with hidden messages and such. Only true believers will see the true message because God will open up their spiritual eyes and ears to it. Again God has to do the work. I am just asking that you really think about all of this. We care about you too DM and James! That is why I ask this. I am not saying to change your view on things, but just really think about everything. Just what if you are wrong? What if we are wrong? We just have to let God work in us if he so desires to see the truth. For everything we ever come to know is because of God. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 This comment was edited by Smilykrazy on Jul 05 2004 09:20pm. |
JamesF1 - Student |
Nice one Moby I agree 110% _______________ Website |
DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student |
Koyi and Smily, You never really responded to this. Your still saying we all have to be chosena and we can not make a decision to be saved. Please read below and tell me how we have not be justified through Jesus Christ. Yes we are all scum bags, Jesus KNOWS this, but he loves us just the same. In our sinful lives we need to show the BABY STEPS to continuous improvement. None of us will EVER arrive. But we need to turn from our sins that are a lifestyle and work on all the other ones all the time, such a swearing, or things like this. As long as we are EARNESTLY trying to get rid of sin, and show marked improvements and give him the glory and praise for giving us the strenght, HE DELIGHTS in us. You need to stop this Family Radio philosophy, because the DO NOT beleive in justification and that is not biblical. They are convincing real CHRISTIANS they are not saved and that is part of, "The elite will be deceived". Please see the truth and realize JUST WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY DID FOR YOU, other than just die for your sins. THERE WAS MORE TO IT THAN JUST THAT!!! I love you guys and I am speaking out of love here and I know you know this, so please read below again and study it. I beleive it is the truth. Quote: Let me start my quoting scripture: But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. (Romans 5.8-10) I believe the following... 1. God is perfect, and He demands perfection. 2. I am a sinner. Romans 3:23 (KJV) says, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." I can try all I want to please God on my own by trying to be good, but I can never match up to perfection. I can never meet all the requirements of the law. The law condemns me to spend eternity in hell apart from God. But is the law bad? No, but rather, ". . . the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith" Galatians 3:24 (KJV). What else does the Bible say? 3. As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one." Romans 3:10, 11, 12 4. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. Romans 3:21-24 5. It is ONLY because of the righteousness of Jesus Christ that I am able to confidently say I am going to heaven. When I accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, the righteousness of Jesus was applied to my "account." My slate was wiped clean. Jesus' righteousness was imputed to me. I am now righteous in the eyes of God. I am being sanctified day by day and becoming more like He wants me to be. But positionally, I am justified. The debt has been paid in full. 6. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8, 9 (KJV) See Smily? It is not that you CAN NOT sin. We all are sinners. The key is repentence and truly work towards getting rid of all the sin in your life. No man will achieve perfection. He does not ask us to be perfect. He just wants to see our continuous improvement and for us to give him the glory. These are my opinions of what the word says. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jul 05 2004 09:31pm. |
Aron - Retired |
The Bible is very clear on this. No is no. People only bend the rules because they have problems obeying them. God forbids it This comment was edited by Aron on Jul 05 2004 08:04pm. |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
well, this kind of has to do with the bible... The Bible forbids pre-marital sex, correct? I was just wondering what you people feel on this subject Personally, I have nothing against it, as long as it comes from a steady relationship with a lot of love involved. I'm pretty much against one-night-stands and such... What are your thoughts? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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JamesF1 - Student |
Fear (the 'bad' kind) and love cannot co-exist. So if the Bible says that you should "love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul" then surely the fear it references to is the 'good' kind of fear. e.g. I cannot fear death (for example) and at the same time love it. I can't be afraid to die but can't wait to die (see, makes no sense at all). _______________ Website |
Koyi Donita - Student |
Great post Smily. Let's look a little further into this topic of fear. In Psalm 2:11 we read: 11) Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. {I'm sorry that I'm pulling this verse out of context but the trembling part is what I wanted to bring to light.} In Psalm 6:1-7 we read: 1) O LORD, rebuke me not in thine anger, neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure. 2)Have mercy upon me, O LORD; for I weak: O LORD, heal me; for my bones are vexed. 3) My soul is also sore vexed: but thou, O LORD, how long? 4) Return, O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake. 5) For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? 6) I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed to swim; I water my couch with my tears. 7) Mine eye is consumed because of grief; it waxeth old because of all mine enemies. In Psalm 7:11 we read: 11) God judgeth the righteous or [God is a just judge], and God is angry with the wicked every day. In Psalm 9:19-20 we read: 19) Arise, O LORD: let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight. 20) Put them in fear, O LORD; that the nations may know themselves to be but men. In Psalm 11:5-6 we read: 5) The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. 6) Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and a horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup. In Psalm 17:15 we read: 15) As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness. Too tired. Will continue another time. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. |
Smilykrazy - Retired |
I would like to thank everyone for their input on fear. However I still think that we should FEAR, the bad fear, god! I grew up in a Methodist church. MY whole life I have been taught to love God, love jesus with all your heart and soul. Beg for forgiveness. Do your best to do gods will and follow his commandments. Take communion to be forgiven for your sins, etc etc etc etc! However I really feel that through a radio station that does a ministy here, my eyes have been opened to more truth then I have ever known. I have to ask this, im sure you all dont think this but do you honestly think that you can sin? Constantly rebel against god? Do as you wish and be forgiven just because you can say you are sorry for it? Just because in the long run you feel bad for your sins? God does love. He has enormous love!! I think its truly amazing that he saves any of us! NO ONE on this earth deserves to be saved. The proof of this is in: Romans 3: 9-12 9)What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved bothi Jews and Gentiles that they are all under sins. 10) As it is written, There is none righteous, No Not ONE. 11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after god. 12) They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable, there is none that doeth good, no not one. Also in Psalm 14:1-3 1)The fool hath said in his heart. There is no god. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none thgat doeth good. 2)The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand and seek God. 3)They are all gone aside, they are all together filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. So just from these two scriptures alone. It tells us that no one on this earth does good. No one deserves to be saved because we are all filthy. We are all sinners and all in rebellion to god. So here is my question. How can you not fear almighty god? We are all sinners! Its not as easy and being sincerely sorry and loving god. There is nothing we can do! We are all going to go to hell unless we are one of gods elect. Then and then only will we be saved and go to heaven. This is why I fear god. Because to me, at this moment in my life, I do not feel that I am saved. Ive been doing alot of thinking and I have come to that conclusion. So when the world ends, if I am not one of gods elect, I am going to hell. And there I will suffer Gods punishment and pay for all my sins. That is why I am petrified of God! Imagine being punished by the almight god and how awful that will be! And to suffer like that forever!!! I am scared to death. All I can so is pray for god to forgive me and to have mercy on me. That wont give me salvation though. Thats all for now. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
Jade - Student |
It is great to read that there are so many Christians here. I am happy, but also sad at the concentration over the Fear of God. It is right to fear God as his wrath is so great. However, if you Love God, then there is no need to fear. God is love and remember, we are all sinners. If we repent no matter how many times....he forgives us because there is no greater love than his...he gave up his only son for us! Smily: Much, much respect for you for what you said in your original comments about your fear....you are a far better person than I. Yes be afraid to sin, but if you do then repent...but do so not in words, but in your heart and only when your heart is ready....I will explain here:- I have no scriptures for this, but only my own experiences. I sin, always have and most likely always will. I repent after sinning saying I am sorry God for sinning please, please forgive me. This was taught to me...this was fear, this was guilt. However, I recently found myself feeling increasingly sad and lost....deeply sad as though from my core. This carried on until one evening I found myself uncrontrollably sobbing like a baby. I could not stop and could not understand why. In my mind I prayed and begged for forgiveness, but for what?...I could not say what for...how could I repent for something I did not know I had done wrong? This, I eventually and shamefully owned up to God saying I am sorry but I am so blind and my mind so clouded that I dont even know I have sinned...This was the biggest sin of all...I had repeatedly repented in the past by words but not truly in my heart. That evening was my heart finally opening up to God for all the sins in the past...there were no words, no promises and no excuses...only pure sadness. From that day on, I have never felt that way and truly feel God has forgiven me for those sins. My message is this: I am a sinner. I will always be a sinner. If I was free from sinning then I would be perfect...I would be God. This is my belief. Perfection is not possible, but it is the attempt to be perfect that warms Gods heart. The fact that we quietly suffer in Gods name, the fact that we beat ourselves up inside for making a mistake or sinning. This is what makes God love us. If you have a son or daughter and they are truly sorry for doing wrong, can you turn your back on them? No! Neither can God. He is our Father and we his children. His compassion is far far greater than ours so he will always be there, he will always forgive and he will always love - unconditionally. These are my words, not taught, but learned the hard way....through experience. Yes, fear God. Know his wrath, but no matter what, remember to Love. Take care everyone and God Bless you all. _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" This comment was edited by Jade on Jul 05 2004 03:54am. |
JamesF1 - Student |
Quote: Alright, I'll post something anyway. I usually don't join the religious discussions (even though I am religious), so this is the first time I actually post something. Quote:
Quote: Fear, as I've said before, has two separate meanings. We are not meant to fear God in the sense of being scared of him. We are meant to fear God in the sense of respecting him (respect is the alternate meaning of 'fear'). James can you give me some examples of how fear relates to respect in real world terms? Im having a hard time understanding it. The "fear" for God as described in the Bible can be seen as "being in awe of God, respecting him, a healthy fear of displeasing him". This kind of fear comes forth out (is that an english expression?) of respect and appreciation for all the good things he has done and the love he has shown, knowing that He is the almighty, and has the RIGHT and POWER to destroy the ones who disobey him. There are basically two kinds of fears: The one I just described above, a healthy fear which does not "destroy your psyche or mood". ...and an UNHEALTHY fear. This is fear as most people know it. Being scared of something, sometimes to the point that you just "freak out" or let it consume you. This is NOT the fear that is ment in the expression "fear God". I hope that helps a bit Thanks for that Aron - that's what I meant. _______________ Website |
Koyi Donita - Student |
Okay, I'll quickly post one of the Psalms here as an example. Later, I'm going to purchase a concordance so that I can look up the original Hebrew and Greek words God chose to use for fear and we'll see how they are used throughout the Bible. I could be wrong and we all must let God tell us what He means. In Psalm 38 we read: 1) O LORD, rebuke me not in thy wrath: neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure. 2) For thine arrows stick fast in me, and thy hand presseth me sore. 3) There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin. 4) For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as a heavy burden they are too heavy for me. 5) My wounds stink and are corrupt because of my foolishness. 6) I am troubled; I am bowed down greatly; I go mourning all the day long. 7) For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease: and there is no soundness in my flesh. 8) I am feeble and sore broken: I have roared by reason of the disquietness of my heart. 9) Lord, all my desire is before thee; and my groaning is not hid from thee. 10) My heart panteth, my strength faileth me: as for the light of mine eyes, it also is gone from me. 11) My lovers and my friends stand aloof from my sore; and my kinsmaen stand afar off. 12) They also that seek after my life lay snares for me; and they that seek my hurt speak mischievous things, and imagine deceits all the day long. 13) But I, as a deaf man, heard not; and I was as a dumb man that openeth not his mouth. 14) Thus I was as a man that heareth not, and in whose mouth are no reproofs. 15) For in thee, O LORD, do I hope: thou wilt hear, O Lord my God. 16) For I said, Hear me, lest otherwise they should rejoice over me: when my foot slippeth, they magnify themselves against me. 17) For I am ready to halt, and my sorrow is continuallly before me. 18) For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin. 19) But mine enemies are lively, and they are strong: and they that hate me wrongfully are multiplied. 20) They also that render evil for good are mine adversaries; because I follow the thing that good is. 21) Forsake me not, O LORD: O my God, be not far from me. 22) Make haste to help me, O lord of my salvation. I will comment on this further at a later date. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. |
Aron - Retired |
Some (hopefully) stuff on predestination: The original Greek word that was translated with predestination (or whatever it is called in English) is pro·gno´sis (pro = before, gnosis = knowledge). A Greek verb related to this word is pro·gi·no´sko, which is used two times in the bible (highlighted parts): The first time by Paul in Acts 26:4,5: Quote: So then, all Jews know my manner of life from my youth up, which from the beginning was spent among my own nation and at Jerusalem; 5 since they have known about me for a long time...... ..and the second time by Peter in 2Peter 3:17: Quote: You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, Note that these translations have been taken from http://bible.crosswalk.com, since I don't have an English bible at my place. It's logical that with the "knowing this beforehand" was not ment "in every detail". They did, however, know the "rough lines" of what was to be expected. The Greek word that is translated with "To predestine" is pro·o·ri´zo (Pro = before, orizo = to Mark out, to define, to limit). I will wrap this up soon, I'm tired Anyway, you could see this "to limit" as "setting boundaries". God has the ABILITY and POWER to fulfill EVERYTHING he has promised, so in that way, he can prophetize and set certain "boundaries" that won't be crossed, because he would prevent it. Wether God has the ability to see EVERYTHING beforehand is a good question, but almost impossible to solve. If you accept this theory, you will automatically find yourself facing some new problems. Imagine: If God would know EVERYHING beforehand, why did he say "let us create man" to his son Jesus, if he already KNEW it would not end up well? Anyway, I'm gonna take a rest now. I hope you find this a bit useful. |
Aron - Retired |
Alright, I'll post something anyway. I usually don't join the religious discussions (even though I am religious), so this is the first time I actually post something. Quote:
Quote: Fear, as I've said before, has two separate meanings. We are not meant to fear God in the sense of being scared of him. We are meant to fear God in the sense of respecting him (respect is the alternate meaning of 'fear'). James can you give me some examples of how fear relates to respect in real world terms? Im having a hard time understanding it. The "fear" for God as described in the Bible can be seen as "being in awe of God, respecting him, a healthy fear of displeasing him". This kind of fear comes forth out (is that an english expression?) of respect and appreciation for all the good things he has done and the love he has shown, knowing that He is the almighty, and has the RIGHT and POWER to destroy the ones who disobey him. There are basically two kinds of fears: The one I just described above, a healthy fear which does not "destroy your psyche or mood". ...and an UNHEALTHY fear. This is fear as most people know it. Being scared of something, sometimes to the point that you just "freak out" or let it consume you. This is NOT the fear that is ment in the expression "fear God". I hope that helps a bit |
(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student |
Quote: Nothing like that at all If I make the choice to, let us say, go play tennis today. God knew beforehand that I would make that decision today. If I chose to make a different decision (i.e. to NOT go and play tennis), he would already have known that I would make it. He KNOWS what you're going to make, but doesn't CHANGE it. If you change your mind on something today, he knew you were going to change your mind. If he knows the outcome it isnt a choice! You had orginally thought you were going to play tennis, the your plans changed, God wasn't getting that live for channel 7 news, he new from the moment he created the earth ( and technically before that ) you would NOT go play tennis that day. So no you didnt have a choice. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
JamesF1 - Student |
And its a hard one to explain too Smily. I can't remember where exactly (I'll try and find it later), but the Bible says about fear of God as a respect of God. I just can't think off the top of my head where it is. _______________ Website This comment was edited by JamesF1 on Jul 04 2004 08:20am. |
Smilykrazy - Retired |
Quote: Fear, as I've said before, has two separate meanings. We are not meant to fear God in the sense of being scared of him. We are meant to fear God in the sense of respecting him (respect is the alternate meaning of 'fear'). James can you give me some examples of how fear relates to respect in real world terms? Im having a hard time understanding it. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
Smilykrazy - Retired |
wow! That was an awesome way of putting it! So then I guess its a good thing that I fear god. I look forward to the scriptures on fear. I would look them up but you have your bible right now and mine doesnt have the concordance thingy. James I have seen scriptures in the bible that tell you to fear god. Hopefully either me or Koyi can post some for you to look into if your interested. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
ioshee - Student |
Based on 2nd Peter 3:8-10 the world could have been made in 6 days, 2,191,500 days or 0.0000164 days. Since it states it goes both ways. I've always thought it's a weird thing to have a problem with. If you can believe that an all powerful being can create a universe, why does he have to be limited to our current understanding of science? _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
Koyi Donita - Student |
Personally, I would have to disagree with James F1. I think we should be terrified of God. I mean come on, this is The Almighty God we're talking about here. Perfect, Righteous, Holy, Merciful, and as straight edged as anything can be. With the Bible and the commandments and statues of God present with us, we can very easily determine that we are all sinners and are held accountible to sin. Yes, Jesus did come to save sinners and yes, Jesus did go to the cross and paid for the sins of the world, but only those which the father gave them. The names that they chose from before the foundation of the world, the elect of God. God makes it very clear to me in the Bible where He says over and over and over and over again, If you don't follow my commandments you don't love me. If you don't keep my commandments I am not in you or you are not in me. With those basic teachings that we can't just simply ignore or sweep under the carpet, I see clearly that I'm on a run away train heading straight for hell and Jesus is my only chance of getting off. If God would have mercy on me, I wouldn't be living a life of sin because that's what His Word says. {again, my opinion with no scriptures present. I'll work on a study and post it here when I have something to back this up} The people of Israel are a classic example. They continually turned away from God to follow the lusts of their flesh and He destroyed them! He laid to ruin the holy city. He destroyed them in the wilderness. He destroyed them at the mountain when they were disobediant. He will have no problem destroying sinners because God hates sinners. There are a number of Psalms that were written by some of the most God fearing kings and they knew salvation was theirs, but whenever they sinned it tore them apart. Read the psalms. They were inwardly destroyed that they rebelled against God even though they were chosen by Him and were loved greatly by Him. This is the fear of the Lord. I should have remembered to look into those scriptures and now will. Fear does come with respect, don't get me wrong but as someone is guilty of a crime has to face the punishment, that someone doesn't respect his upcoming death, he fears it. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. This comment was edited by Koyi Donita on Jul 04 2004 04:47pm. |
JamesF1 - Student |
Fear, as I've said before, has two separate meanings. We are not meant to fear God in the sense of being scared of him. We are meant to fear God in the sense of respecting him (respect is the alternate meaning of 'fear'). _______________ Website |
Smilykrazy - Retired |
yeah my eyes were going nuts after a while. Hmmm ok koyi. You know I dont understand the king james version of the bible. So all of that stuff on fear REALLY confuses me. Can you sum it up in english for me? Im sorry I just cant understand the language for some reason. I read it three times and I still have no idea what I read. /cry _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
JamesF1 - Student |
Koyi: Your lack of line breaks makes that a little hard to read, but still - great post _______________ Website |
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