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Jul 31 2004 06:41pm

Scythus Aratan
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Ok heres some tutorials and guides for you budding mappers skinner modelers and whatnot.

Mapping

Firstly go here to get the editor:
http://www.qeradiant.com/?data=files&files_dir=21

http://richdiesal.jedioutcastmaps.com/tutorials/
(Beginner to intermediate)

http://planetquake.com/bubba/mapping.html
Begginer and Intermdiate

http://www.massassi.net/tutorials.php
All kinds

http://planetquake.com/qworkshop3/tutorials/
Beginner --> Advanced

http://www.pcgamemods.com/5223/
All kinds
(Bunch of tuts in a zip)

http://www.jkmapping.com
Video Tutorials - Thanks to Xan.


Skinning

http://jediknight.filefront.com/file.stuff?body=CustomSkinningTutorial
How to edit skins and get them in game.

There are very few guides about how do skin well, just remember how it will wrap
on the model, and know how to
draw realistically with photoshop.

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=87386
Some help with the latter here.

Modeling

I'll split this up into several sections.

Player Modeling

You will need 3DS Max to do this,
which isnt cheap.

Get the JK3 editing tools:
http://jediknight.filefront.com/file.info?ID=18807

http://jediknight.filefront.com/file.info?ID=18604
Getting it to work.

To do this effectively you really need to know
how to model beforehand, and it's not easy. If
you want to start modeling and you havent done
it before, I advise you look at one of the
other sections.


Hilt Modeling

You will probably want milkshape for this.

http://www.massassi.com/coffeestain/03.html
How to get your saberhilt from milkshape to
JK2/3.

http://www.btinternet.com/~howe_alison/brothers/tutorial/gmax_jkii_tutorial.htm
An excellent hilt tutorial.

Again you will need to learn to model seperately.
Don't worry, i'll post some general milkshape or 3ds max tutorials at the end.

General Modeling Tutorials

Instead of posting a massive list i'll give you a link:
http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=63469
about 20 milkshape tutorials there.

Also the official site's tutorials:
http://www.swissquake.ch/chumbalum-soft/ms3d/tutorials.html

3DS MAX tuorials:
http://www.3dcafe.com/asp/tut3ds.asp

and more:
http://www.3dbuzz.com/

Miscellaneous

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=123422
Menu scripts

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=109799
NPC's. Just scroll down and read the thread, all the info is there, if not completely clear.




There.

Thanks for reading this, hope you find it useful.

Scythus -

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This post was edited by Virtue on Dec 21 2004 07:16pm.

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Dec 31 2004 12:09am

Setementor
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Well, it's up now! :D

Dec 30 2004 03:43pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Rich Diesal's Site has been down the last few days :(
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Dec 24 2004 03:43am

Setementor
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 Setementor

Yeah, best to just use the one supplied above. :)

Dec 23 2004 07:06pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

The one with Doom 3 isn't GTKRadiant so it wont work with JK3. You will have to use the one with the link above.
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Dec 23 2004 06:51pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Quote:
Theres a a guide with it when you download it on ow to set it up.


Scythus, he didn't download it, he had one supplied with the game, obviously another version, or edition

Well, dig through your folders and check if their is an .exe to open your QEradiant, though the name is different, so it probably won't work with JK2 or JK3, but no harm in trying :)
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Dec 23 2004 02:42pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

Theres a a guide with it when you download it on ow to set it up.
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Dec 23 2004 11:51am

The Dragon Reborn
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 The Dragon Reborn

So once you've got the editor, how do you open it? Is there a shortcut? The QE Radiant with Doom 3 has to be accessed through the game. If that editor worked with JA how would i go about opening it with the JA source?
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Dec 22 2004 10:04pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

It doesn't matter too much on the engine, if it's similar. If the map files are the same, and contain the same data, then it's probably fit to use.
Especially if it's GTK Radiant or something. But I doubt it. I do think it'd be best to download GTK Radiant if you don't already have it.

Dec 22 2004 08:38pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Quote:
No, Doom 3 uses the Doom 3 Engine, not the Q3 engine, so you can't compile the mpas for use in JK3.


it can be if JK3 is a supported game, I'm not sure, that's why I wanted him to check, hence my last post ...
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Dec 22 2004 08:37pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

No, Doom 3 uses the Doom 3 Engine, not the Q3 engine, so you can't compile the mpas for use in JK3.
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Dec 22 2004 07:42pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Quote:
I've already got radiant, but it came with Doom 3. Is it the same editor? Can i use this for JK:JA, or will i need to download it again?


I'm not completely sure. By the Menu 'Edit' and 'Preferences', can you change the game to JKJA?

if not, then yes, you'll have to download it again I'm afraid :(
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Dec 22 2004 07:32pm

The Dragon Reborn
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 The Dragon Reborn

I've already got radiant, but it came with Doom 3. Is it the same editor? Can i use this for JK:JA, or will i need to download it again?
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"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to... suffering" -Jedi Master Yoda

"I shall not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will allow it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone i will turn my inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only i will remain." -Bene Gesserit Litany, Dune


Dec 21 2004 08:39pm

Setementor
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It becomes permanent when an Administrator makes it permanent. If you edit it, you don't have the power to keep it permanent.

Dec 21 2004 07:05pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

WTF?
Why does it unsticky?
Oh well, Fixed the link Xan.
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This comment was edited by Virtue on Dec 21 2004 07:16pm.

Dec 20 2004 07:16pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Quote:
I thought this topic was stickied? :confused:

Great job on pulling all these resources. :cool:


btw, Scythus, need to fix that link to jkmapping :D

it was stickified too, but Scythus must have edited it, which made it un-stickified

it happens
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Dec 20 2004 06:23pm

Xan
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 Xan

I thought this topic was stickied? :confused:

Great job on pulling all these resources. :cool:


btw, Scythus, need to fix that link to jkmapping :D
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This comment was edited by Xan on Dec 20 2004 06:24pm.

Nov 14 2004 05:05am

Anakin Skywalker
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 Anakin Skywalker

:o:empire:I need more skinning:o:empire::D
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Oct 20 2004 03:17am

tarpman
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No, 3DS Max does NOT do maps for JK2/3. The map editor is GTKRadiant. 3DS Max only does visual aspects of things, whereas Radiant also includes things like script triggers and spawn points, and automatically compiles your map into the BSP format. Complex map features like irregular terrain can be done with plugins for Radiant. An example is one that imports a grayscale heightmap and turns it into a terrain brush.
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Oct 07 2004 08:00pm

Setementor
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Quote:
Is it possible to do maps with 3ds max or only modles?


If you look below, you may see that I just answered that question to someone else. :)

Oct 07 2004 05:01pm

Lithaerien
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 Lithaerien

Ok, thanks:D

Amazing how fast you can get answers ;)
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Oct 07 2004 04:50pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

only models I believe
but I could be wrong

Anyway, I use GtkRadiant for mapping... always did, so don't know about anything else for sure :P
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Oct 07 2004 04:28pm

Lithaerien
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 Lithaerien

Is it possible to do maps with 3ds max or only modles?
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Oct 06 2004 01:12am

Setementor
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 Setementor

GTKRadiant has bugs too. If it doesn't work, don't worry, just reinstall. ;)

Yes, I know this may already be above, but you can download radiant here. Just select a mirror. :)

Anyway, as I was going to say, you can make a map in a model, but I dunno how good it would be. Basically, you make the model, get somebody else to add it to a new map, then pack it up. Again, I'm not too sure of how it would look - You wouldn't be able to use map functions, unless the mapper added those too. However, I strongly suggest that you stick with radiant.

Oct 05 2004 11:21pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

Radiant is for mapping, Max is for modeling.
And you want GTKRadiant not QERadiant.
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Oct 05 2004 11:10pm

Vaughn
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 Vaughn

Question: I have 3DS MAX 5... and last time i tried, qtradient didnt work on my computer. would i still be able to use the tutorials and sorta, transpose them into max, or is there a tutorial for doing that.. or should i just stop whining and try again with the radient?
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