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RESPECT, The Dying Member Of The JA
Aug 14 2004 04:13am

AngelD'Kana
 - ex-Student
AngelD'Kana
Respect here at the academy seems to be slipping. I have gone through the forums, profile hopping, to the IRC channel, and to play on the servers, and the more i read/IRC/play/chat-Ingame the more disgusted I get at the lack of respect shown by most. I apologize to thoes who have tremendous respect for others for generalizing this post but this issue has grown over the past few months and I think it really needs to be addressed

I am not reporting anyone because there has been minimal disrespect geared towards me and I do not feel it is my place, but that doesnt mean Im okay with it and it most certainly does not mean I will stand for it.

Thoes who are disrespectful to others: You know who you are and wether you were disrespectful to someone out of anger, frustration, stress, or because your mean, It doesnt give you the right to do it. Disrespect can be as simple as ignoring someone true, but the disrespect that I have seen is far worse and that is why i decided to write this. I have seen insults, flamming, pointless arguing and bickering, the whole works. Come on people grow up it takes two to argue certaintly one of you can be big enough and shrug it off why continue?

Disrespect spreads like a virus the more you disrespect someone the more you will end up getting disrespected. Its sad but true, disrespect often fuels retaliation/revenge/hostility. If your disrespectful to someone they will want to be disrespectful back, and you will have an argument on your hands. Nobody likes to see that adn when they do it often makes them think less of the two parties involved in the argument (unless of course the argument was unavoidale/perfectly reasonable). Retaliation is just as bad and is frowned upon just as much as the initial act of disrespect. If you have been disrespected don't go seeking revenge, notify a JAK+ or send an email to the council at fixtheja@thejediacademy.net . They are there to help make sure your experience here is as pleasant as possible.

Nobody is forcing you to like every single person you come across but You do have to respect their right to be here peacfuly. if you have a problem with someone then ignore/avoid them but dont start trouble. Heck if you feel you have to respond in some way then do this: type somethink kind to them in the chat/game/profile, It pisses them off but will eventualy wear them down and who knows you might make a friend out of the situation.

Also respect other people's wishes. If you are being told you are doing something obnoxious/annoying in IRC/theGame/A post ont the forums, then have the decency to stop it. Hopefully you be told in such an outright manner as "Your being obnoxious quit it" but if you are DON'T RESPOND NEGATIVELY stop the act, and when you get the chance tell a JAK+ the situation.

I have one last form of disrespect to discuss. THIS FORM IS BY FAR THE WORST I HAVE SEEN!!! NEVER EVER take a personal attack at someone. NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID FIRST. You don't know what it's like to be that person. You have no idea what goes on in their head or their motives for doing what they do. Never make assumptions, you don't know what rough times/traumas they've faced. Even if they tell you, you can never assume you know the full story.

Disrespect makes everyone around you uncomfortable and less interested in being your friend. So do yourself a favor don't disrespect people. If your angry/frustrated/stressed out then distance your self from the JA until youve cleared your head. Go on a public server under an alias and lame till your hearts content, but don't disrespect people here, youll only get yourself in trouble. And if you disrespect people because you just truly are a mean person inside, then leave, your not welcome here, this is a community that prides itself on the peaceful atmosphere it creates and IT WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY ONE INDIVIDUAL TRYING TO RUIN THIS ATMOSPHERE.

I have bumped a really old thread dealing with the lockdown to compliment this post. I meant for people to see that thread and remember we have rules here for a reason and breaking the rules has consequences. Instead of bickering/arguing/insulting/attacking people here, try to make friends with them, I think its much easier to make friends here than it is to make enemies.

I hope you will take this thread seriously and change your attitudes. I think we all could use a change even myself. No one person is perfect nor does the ja call for perfection, it merely calls for respect.

:alliance: Angel D'Kana :alliance:
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Aug 14 2004 05:09am

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

I want to reiterate that any issues you're having with other students, the staff, the servers, or anything else related to the Jedi Academy you can bring to a council member. Please email fixtheja@thejediacademy.net if anything around here is keeping you from enjoying yourself. We want this place to be a fun place, remember? :)
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Oct 31 2004 10:06am

Carda Jowol
 - Student
 Carda Jowol

ITS ok Angel, we do stupid things now and again, we an't perfect!! bit I think I speak for ever one I say

"WE <3 ANGEL!!! YOU RAWKS!!" :P
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Oct 31 2004 06:07am

AngelD'Kana
 - Ex-Student
 AngelD'Kana

Heh looks like i need to listne to my own words for once :P im sorry to everyone ive disrespect l8ly, to many to keep count. but bah i feel bad bout it. hope you all forgive me

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Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. - Mark Twain

<Jedi_Prodigy> BOOOO angel! SEE SMILY? JP EVEN THINKS IM RIGHT :D I WIN :D 12:15:30(AM)] * DJ_Sith gives Jacen_Solo a golden shower }{ [01:33:00(AM)] * DJ_Sith give `orion a wonderful golden shower! }{ [01:35:41(AM)] * DJ_Sith gives doobie|broke a wonderful golden shower!


Sep 19 2004 08:34am

Nero
 - Student
 Nero

Why do I never see these things happen:confused:
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Sep 19 2004 06:05am

AngelD'Kana
 - Ex-Student
 AngelD'Kana

I agree and disaggreeem, While it isnt good to do it in a hateful manner, posting your opinion is key here. You need to get your point across. Everyone has a voice here and it deserves to be heard. If you think somethings up let us know, but do it calmly and peacfully :)
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Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. - Mark Twain

<Jedi_Prodigy> BOOOO angel! SEE SMILY? JP EVEN THINKS IM RIGHT :D I WIN :D 12:15:30(AM)] * DJ_Sith gives Jacen_Solo a golden shower }{ [01:33:00(AM)] * DJ_Sith give `orion a wonderful golden shower! }{ [01:35:41(AM)] * DJ_Sith gives doobie|broke a wonderful golden shower!


Sep 14 2004 07:16am

Raos
 - Student
 Raos

My views on this are as follows, drama=bad. You annoy/lame/curse/flame/whatever someone whether they have or haven't done anything to you in the past, you create drama. If someone is "whining" and you can't stand whiners, great, but you don't HAVE to post three pages of your opinion in a hateful way. So basically yeah, what Angel said =P. And remember kids, 30 minutes of meditation a day keeps the drama away(or was that 200ccs of morphine?).
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Aug 31 2004 01:05pm

 
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I do! :D

Aug 31 2004 12:49pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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You know what I see as disrespect? Getting your oar into a situation that isn't really your concern. Y'know, like, Squib and Anakin had their little disagreement there? Of course, a JAK or JAT will intervene, but that's how it is. It's just disrespectful in my opinion for a student with no involvement to get their oar in. Y'know, not naming any names, like BAIL BELOUVE or anything. :P

sure, and while we're at it we'll leave all the counter-laming to the JAK's ... and the welcoming of new members too perhaps?:P
Btw, don't shout my name publicly on the forums, I could hear you when I was still sleeping :P

Do you really think it's disrespectful?
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Aug 31 2004 12:12pm

Furi0us
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 Furi0us

LET'S KEEP IT SERIOUS GUYS.

I MEAN LIKE SERIOUSLY.

KTHX. :P
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Aug 31 2004 11:43am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

*counter-jumps on Mike*

You already have them u retard'
















:P
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Aug 31 2004 11:38am

 
 - Student

*jumps on Fizzeh*

I WANNA HAVE YOUR BABIES

Aug 31 2004 11:08am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

*gazes at Mike*
*raises eyebrow*









:D

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Aug 31 2004 10:14am

 
 - Student

You know what I see as disrespect? Getting your oar into a situation that isn't really your concern. Y'know, like, Squib and Anakin had their little disagreement there? Of course, a JAK or JAT will intervene, but that's how it is. It's just disrespectful in my opinion for a student with no involvement to get their oar in. Y'know, not naming any names, like BAIL BELOUVE or anything. :P

Aug 31 2004 08:43am

Furi0us
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 Furi0us

I'd like to add that I am a n00b.
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Aug 31 2004 07:40am

Ataris
 - Milwaukees Finest
 Ataris

yeah Anakin, just to make sure this doesn't end up badly I have to say that I DON'T think you're a bad person.. I've not learned to know you that good, but over the servers you seem like a really nice guy.. Besides, I only was referring to your hastiness, not to what kind of person you are.. I consider myself as a bad JA-er because of my temper, and I'm only glad I'm not the only one ;):D cya around, and maybe I'll get to know you a little bit better..
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Aug 30 2004 10:22pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

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I actually thought you called me n00b and lamer there, maybe no one looked at it liek that, but i did.
Just a side note:
If, from that moment, you guys think that im not a good person or a good guy because of what i said on that post, then feel free to do so. Those who really know me, know that i'm not like that.
That's all for me.

I'm going to be honest to say that your reaction was uncalled for.
But we all have had those moments and days. I don't hold it against you, and I'm sure Squibit doesn't either
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Aug 30 2004 09:53pm

Anakin Skywalker
 - Ex-Student
 Anakin Skywalker

It's something that comes from a long time ago, and because of other poeples actions, here at TJA. but that isn't called to the subject so nevermind.
Iactually thought you called me n00b and lamer there, maybe no one looked at it liek that, but i did.
Just a side note:
If, from that moment, you guys think that im not a good person or a good guy because of what i said on that post, then feel free to do so. Those who really know me, know that i'm not like that.
That's all for me.

Anakin Skywalker
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This comment was edited by Anakin Skywalker on Aug 30 2004 10:02pm.

Aug 30 2004 09:15pm

Ataris
 - Milwaukees Finest
 Ataris

ok Anakin what you earlier talked about respect and you joining the army at the age of 14 is good, but I believe you would've learned patience as well.. you get quite easily agitated if you're now mad to Squib about this one single post he made.. looks more like you have something against him from the beginning, or just a REALLY bad day.. I would be like you on a bad day, but I'm not supersticious about people, and if you're like me and don't have supersticions about other people, I can't see why you got mad.. If you call the comments of Squib pissing you off, you are even worse than myself, and I consider that I'm very hasty and get angry easily! but oh well.. people are different, just listen to some good music n' stuff.. atleast it helped me to chill for a sec before I surely would've been kicked out of the JA.. You don't want that to happen to you, do ya? If I would've lost it like I almost did a dozen times, I woulnd't be posting here and now.. believe me when I say, you DON'T want that to happen.. :) anyway...
-Peace out my fellow students- :)
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Aug 30 2004 09:14pm

Carve
 - Student
 Carve

Now see, personally, I'm a bit torn on the whole subject.

On the one hand, I realize that the Jedi Academy is as much about camaraderie and fun as it is about education.

On the other hand, I think that there are places where you can just goof off (forums/profiles, IRC, etc).

When I first started here, the general atmosphere was much more strict - not because of any particular rules laid down, but rather the students saw the Jedi Academy as just that: An Academy. They, thus, felt that a certain level of maturity and serious behaviour was warranted.

As an example, duels in the Matrix (back in Jedi Outcast) were very linear. One person would stay up until they lost, then the next two in line would move in and that was the accepted way of doing things. It was very organized.

Now it seems that it's whoever runs in fastest gets the duel.

Now, granted, I do this myself - but don't call me hypocritical. Rather, I'm simply adjusting with the times. As my Master taught me, adjustment is the key aspect to this game.

Still, I feel a certain longing for those days when everything was taken a bit more seriously and there was more emphasis on learning. Classes were often filled and people on the servers were always:

• Practicing their dueling
• Discussing tactics with others
• Learning from their Masters

With the occasional GUN FFAs and whatnot (might I add that the emphasis towards guns and non-NF-dueling has increased quite a good deal in our servers compared to a year-and-a-half ago, which I find laudable). Everything was still geared towards learning - and generally the attitude in classes was sober (except Mike) and attentive.

Now, maybe these are just the ramblings of an old(er) fogie at a "younger generation" of Jedi, but personally I feel, and have always felt, that there is a time and a place for silliness, and while the time may vary for many of us, I don't believe the place is in class or on our FFA servers (servers which, might I add as a final point, are there for training.)
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Aug 30 2004 07:56pm

Kainz00r
 - Jedi Knight
 Kainz00r

I don't think Anakin would rocket a room full of duellers. I think he means the sorta stuff friends do like randomly lame each other every now and then just for the plain humour of it. Personally i think some bloke coming along and blowing me sky high when im doing nothing else is pretty amusing, and i'd laugh at it, rather than shout about laming and all that. But if I was busy with something it would irritate me, but if people can see your busy they wouldn't so that sort of thing anyway. I can see how this on a huge scale wouldn't have a great effect, but every now and then it's just a bit of fun.
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Aug 30 2004 06:44pm

Zertz
 - Student
 Zertz

I couldn't agree with me more.
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Aug 30 2004 06:02pm

Henkes
 - Student
 Henkes

I Couldn't agree more to HW!
Yeah it is 'just' a game, but we are real people with real feelings. I try to treat people in here the same way I do with people I meet, or have already met in RL. Fun is one of the big aspects of this place but don't let your fun spoil it for other players...

Yours Faithfully,

Henkes
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Aug 30 2004 05:57pm

Squibit
 - Student
 Squibit

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Thanks for calling me a n00b and lamer squibit.

I didn't call you a n00b or lamer...
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This sounds to me very much like the sort of thinking that n00bs and lamers are made of.


What I meant by this is that i have often heard lamers say things like this as an excuse after laming

"Muhahah i rocketed the whole room for duelers"
"Yeah and you had better never do it again or you will be banned"
"What? It was just fun, we are all here to have fun, don't go all serious on me "

That sort of thing. I didn't mean that you are a lamer because you think it, i meant that you should be carful saying things like that as others may agree with that sort of thought but take it too far (further than you would ever do)

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If you are trying to change my words.. please gtfo.


Ok I have no idea what gtfo means but I assume its some sort of curse,
I don;t know what you mean by change your words, i copy/pasted that exact sentance.

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And NO that is not what i meant.

Huh what isn't what you meant? I didn't try to explain what you meant by the quote. or did you not mean to type that?

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Thanks GG. i'm done, and now yeah you pissed me off, like you always try to.


I am truly sorry I had no intention of "pissing you off" at all, as I said I was trying to warn others not to take things to far not attacking you and if it came across like that i appologise...

I always try to... wtf? When why didn't you tell me?

Last i heard you tried to piss me off with the light thing Heh :P

BTW: I really found that quite funny and didn't hold any ill feelings towards you :)
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This comment was edited by Squibit on Aug 30 2004 06:00pm.

Aug 30 2004 02:37pm

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

Lets keep is civil. Shall we?

Now then. This is just a game. Very true. But real people play that game. And as such a certian level of respect is required.

If we didn't respect the rules and each other there would be no point to having the JA. It would all just end up as another mess where people would be unhappy to hang out.

The JA may just be based around a game, but seeing as it has been around for 2 years just shows that it is to be respected. And the same goes for it's members.

/HW
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Aug 30 2004 02:14pm

Anakin Skywalker
 - Ex-Student
 Anakin Skywalker

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But poeple, sometimes, take this game too serious, it's just a game anyways, and we are here to have fun?


EEEEEK!

This sounds to me very much like the sort of thinking that n00bs and lamers are made of.

Sure its a game, and sure we are all here to have fun. But if you having fun stops others from having fun, that is when it has gone too far.


Thanks for calling me a n00b and lamer squibit. If you are trying to change my words.. please gtfo. And NO that is not what i meant. Thanks GG. i'm done, and now yeah you pissed me off, like you always try to.
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I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too! They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! I HATE THEM! One day I will be the strongest Jedi ever, I will even know how to bring poeple back from death.

This comment was edited by Anakin Skywalker on Aug 30 2004 02:14pm.

Aug 30 2004 12:55pm

Kainz00r
 - Jedi Knight
 Kainz00r

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EEEEEK!

This sounds to me very much like the sort of thinking that n00bs and lamers are made of.

Sure its a game, and sure we are all here to have fun. But if you having fun stops others from having fun, that is when it has gone too far.


But between friends it's ok, I mean Aiden will come blast me with his armory and i'll make my real shabby retaliation and get blasted into a neat little pile of dust, and it's just for a bit of fun. Neither of us mind if one randomly comes along and shoots the other up (Unless we're busy with something, like talking, training etc.) These random fights are stuff like that make the game fun for us :)
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