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A'Sharad Hett - Student  |
If this has already been posted before elsewhere, sue me. 
Seeing Maul in action was a treat. We all know Ray Park to be the real McCoy, yet how did he get there? I believe I have read somewhere that Sidious was supposed to have trained him, some might say "DuH!" and yet I have a hard time envisioning the Chancellor leaping and flipping about with mad saber moves. Could it be that Dooku had something to do with that training? According to the Dark Horse EU material, the insidious Sidious and Dooku were already in cahoots 10 years before Ep II looking for the Prime Clone. Of course, 10 years before Ep II is Ep I, Darth Maul and also the Sifo-Dyas argument. Could Dooku be the panacea to those and this questions? Could Dooku be the trainer of Maul, given Dooku's already noted legendary skill with the lightsaber? Questions/Comments/Flames welcome. _______________ Viking in training. Ray: Good evening... as a duly appointed representative of the city, county and state of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place or origin, or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension. Venkman: That oughta do it. Thanks very much, Ray. This post was edited by A'Sharad Hett on Feb 25 2003 11:10am. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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LOL yes ur right cmad_x  |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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Nah! I think SilentWhisper trained DARtHMAUL.....  hehe....... _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. This comment was edited by _cmad_ on Jun 24 2003 08:30am. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student
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Man Vader needs family and heavy breathing to win against an old man and a kid. Thats pethatic  |
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Vaughn - Student 
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er... Darth Maul... the reason Maul pushed obi down the shaft was because he hated him after he killed qui-gon. He relaxed, breathed in the light side, and maul couldnt react fast enough (he became neo) edit: we all wanted to see the 700 year old...whatever he is... duel against dooku... you knwo you wanted to see that. And... D'oh i forgot... um...oh ya Vader would Own Maul. Even though Maul is cooler _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson This comment was edited by Vaughn on Jun 10 2003 09:28pm. |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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Obi wan was simply stonger in the force. Its like people saying maul against darth vader from the classic trilogy, maul would win as he's a l337 dueler. The fact is its about power not how skillfull you are with a lightsaber. Thats the main reason I was strongly against the yoda dueling scene, as we all knew he was uber powerful, we didn't need to see him do it though. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
No. You're D@rhtm@ul. EDIT: W00t, cool! This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on Jun 10 2003 06:41pm. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student
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Oww and BTW i forgot this is all wrong. Darth Maul wasnt trained by either Lord Sidious or Dooku. He trained alone on public servers and trained under Silent Whisper and JAT/JAK's. lol cause i am DARTH MAUL !!!! This comment was edited by D@RtHM@UL on Jun 10 2003 05:29pm. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Ill answer this as a TRUE DARTH MAUL fan Darth Maul was trained by Lord Sidious NOT by Count Dooku. I even believe that 10 years before EP II Dooku was still a Jedi in service of the Jedi Council he only recently before EP II turned to the Sith Order and The Dark Side. Darthy 0wns all others the only reason why Obi-Wan deafeated him was cause he used the most powerfull side of the Force namely the Dark Side to defeat Darth Maul !!! |
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Luke Skywalker - Student 
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*shrugs* _______________  Luke Skywalker
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Lian Del Rey - Student 
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What does that have to do with anything, Vaughn?! :O _______________ slorp |
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Vaughn - Student 
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remember someone saying this... Darth Maul is the reincarnation of the Dark Side of the Force or something like that Think about it _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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Sauron-the-rasta-mon - Student 
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MR.MEOGI!!!!!!!!!WAZA! _______________ Ω Allehelgens Død Helveds Rike Ω |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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I already ended the discussion....... *blows a rasberry at Lianiotte* _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Lian Del Rey - Student
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"I would like you to meet my apprentice, Darth Maul. He will help you find your lost ship." End of discussion. _______________ slorp |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Maul was Sidious's apprentice, therefore he trained him, end of story. Yoda trained Luke, remember all the flips and stuff he was doing on dagobah, you didn't see yoda doing that did you ? (don't say episode II, its a different time period) Therefore you don't have to be a l337 fighter to train a l337 fighter. Also, think of the mask of zorro (antonio banderas and anthony hopkins) antonio did all the work, whilst hopkins trained him Simple. Do not underestimate people just because they look old or frail...... Think of Mr Meogi in Karate kid _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Sauron-the-rasta-mon - Student
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me _______________ Ω Allehelgens Død Helveds Rike Ω |
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Lord Jaws - Student 
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There is no lead that Doolu was already a student of Sidious, becouse the republic was not split up. I refer againt to the Star Wars databank:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/countdooku/eu.html It is as Buzz Vader sais too hard to train 2 students. Also, the Jedi Order does not allow that a Master has more than 1 padawan. This is shown in ep 1, where Qui0Gon is willing to take anakin as his padawan, but the council does not agree, couse Obi-Wan is still his padawan. And I agree that Sidious could had other padawans bevore the apearence of Maul. What I said is that if there are more that 2 Sith Lords, They would eventualy kill one another. It's in the nature of the dark side as you might know. Also, the danger of revealing themselves to the Jedi at that point is what I think too great. Palpatine could not take this risk. And were would he ever in the wolrd find the time to train two padawans, and be a man of the politic. As Sidious was a powerfull Sith Lord, and a wise one, I don't think that he would have 2 padawans. http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/eu.html for more information about Palpatine. an as you said: that this topic is meant only to stimulate thought and conversation. and I agree in that. ____________________ Honor, Truth, Trust and Nobalty. Those are the way of a Jedi _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! This comment was edited by Lord Jaws on Mar 01 2003 05:11pm. |
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Buzz - Student 
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I'm going to take an Expanded Universe approach to it. I think Palpatine might have had other darkside adepts that he used and trained. They wouldn't have been Sith however. Training someone does seem to take an awful lot of time. So I doubt he could keep the two Sith Apprentices hidden from eachother and trained both of them. And having the two of them together, that would be a threat to him. Remember Vader offered Luke to join him and together they would defeat the Emperor. Having two Sith training together, well they could have decided they'd be better off without him. That's why the only two Sith code came into effect. The darkside corrupts and part of that corruption is to have personal power. Having only one apprentice stops that because then it becomes a waiting game "When I die you get my power." I'd bet that a few Sith Masters met their end by their own apprentices despite there being only two. The Sith aren't like Mara Jade, someone you could keep the other Hands from knowing that each one exists. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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A'Sharad Hett - Student 
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Apparently I am misunderstood.
The rule of "Two and only two Sith at once" made thousands of years ago is not in question. What I hypothesized is that, perhaps, Sidious felt he had enough power to do away with that rule. Who is to say that Sidious did not have another Apprentice or Lord tucked away somewhere at the same time Maul was schooling Liam and Ewan? Were I he, at least, I would carefully weigh tradition over my ability to effectively control the galaxy. In short (funny the synopsis comes at the end of a piece) it is possible that Sidious could have had more than one Lord/Apprentice if he felt his ability to conquer might be in jeopardy. **Note from the author** Above all, please remember that this topic is meant only to stimulate thought and conversation. Nothing more. Nothing less. _______________ Viking in training. Ray: Good evening... as a duly appointed representative of the city, county and state of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place or origin, or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension. Venkman: That oughta do it. Thanks very much, Ray. |
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Lord Jaws - Student 
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The Jedi were not misled. It was as I said
Look at http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/steve/askjc20000619.html there you can fid the history of the Sith, and you will find that Darth Bane came up with this rule. ____________________ Honor, Truth, Trust and Nobalty. Those are the way of a Jedi _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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A'Sharad Hett - Student
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It is true that the Jedi believed that there would only be -two- Sith at a time. I am forced to ask, however, were the Jedi mislead or mistaken? After all, in Episode I, the Jedi believed the Sith extinct. How much more concerning the Sith were the Jedi mislead about?
_______________ Viking in training. Ray: Good evening... as a duly appointed representative of the city, county and state of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place or origin, or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension. Venkman: That oughta do it. Thanks very much, Ray. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Yeah _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Lord Jaws - Student
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I agree with Plo_Koon_Sai. AFter a specific moment in the war betrween Jedi and sith, the sith made a mistake and were elliminated. This was of the couse of that all the sith wanted power and fought each-other. from this point the remaining sith lord decided that there can and must only be 2 Sith. Like Mace Windu said. a Master and his apprentice. So it cannot be that Dooku trained Maul. and it must be Sidious who trainde Maul.
____________________ Honor, Truth, Trust and Nobalty. Those are the way of a Jedi _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Plo Koon - Student
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Palpatine trained Maul,Maul=Dies,Dooku falls to the dark side,palpatine=TRain dooku,Dooku=yodas old padawan. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Charon - Ex-Student 
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Well, not that it's to be taken as canon, according to Lucas. In the Star Wars RPG, Sidious carried a lightsaber of his own construction. The end of Mauls training, was a duel between himself and Sidious, one Maul nearly lost, and was berated as a failure for. The hatred this brought, along with his displeasure of himself, starvation, and the thought his master had betrayed him, made Darth Maul the killing machine we know from the time of the Naboo Blockade.
Partially again from the RPG, but also reflected in the films. The force can be used to compensate for, or even enhance natural abiliites. "You mean it controls your actions?" "Partially, but it also obeys your commands." Luke Skywalker and Ben Kenobi. _______________ spirit's searing pain battlefield of broken glass fallen speak to me --Charon |
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