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To be a knight (or not)
Aug 21 2025 09:14pm

Aeth S'kray
 - Retired
Aeth S'kray
Hi guys,
it came to my attention that there are some misunderstandings of the knight's role. I want to post here *my* interpretation of the knight rank with all it's taks and rules.

First off all you have no "right" to become a knight like you have a "right" to become a journeyman. Your ultimate goal of course *can* be to become a knight (don't want to burst any bubbles) but don't be upset if you won't become one.

Knights are not selected because they are l337 pla0rz or because they own j00 (sleeping in the right beds doesnt really help too ;)). They are mainly chosen for their character, the way they act towards others, how they handle confilcts etc. So *don't* question a knight when he looses a duel. Your respect has not to come from their fighting skills, you should respect them for their character and for their detication!
Can you imagine how big the pressure to win on a knight is, if everybody expects him to win? Can you imagine how it feels when you're asked: "So YOU are a knight?" after you lost? Treat a loosing knight like you would treat any other guy: fair. Don't set a knight under too high pressure or it will come back!
In fact, what makes a knight worthy is his ability to loose! I saw knights loosing on purpose to cheer up others several times. Remeber that!

Last not least, a point that I take very serious among knights (listen up if you are one).
Knights shouldn't be egos.
Although you *are* skilled with the saber, although you *are* selected by the leaders, although you *have* adminpowers and although you *can* eat two donuts in three seconds remember one thing: You are here for the people, not the people for you. With all your strength, with all your autority with all your knowledge... never forget humblness and humility. Theese two are the last steps to become a true knight. Let go of the secular goods and you will be enlightned and more wise than you can imagine :D

Really, I am serious here. Please make sure that every knight for himself controls his attitude.
And every non-knight, check his own relation towards knights aswell.

Thank you.
Now carry on :)


ADDITION (by Dicemaster)
"Knights can screw around once in a while, but there job is to keep control. If a games being played thats getting out of control, listen to the knight if he says stop, even if he is the one that started it!"
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Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003

This post was edited by Aeth S'kray on Feb 26 2003 08:12am.

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Mar 02 2003 05:43pm

Archangel
 - Ex-Student
 Archangel

Aeth... you're the bomb. You've gotta be one of the coolest people I've met here and you're still very philisophical. The point you made is clear and precise. It probably slapped a few people right upside the head. Good, maybe they understand now. Great to hear it said.

Anyway, everything else that crossed my mind while reading this has already been said, so I'll save you all from repeating it.
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Mar 02 2003 03:02pm

Mistral
 - Ex-Student
 Mistral

WOW. 2 donuts in 3 seconds. Now that's some serious skill.:)

Seriously, thanks for spelling this out. I may never be a knight but the values you've outlined above are something I will always aspire to. I'm new here and have been nothing but impressed by the academy. It's great how folks take time out from their lives to run the academy and teach us new skills consequently leading to more fun:D.
I'll remember you're words.
I love this place.
I love all you guys n gals *sob*.

Also, I plan on beating the donut eating record. Gonna hook the computer directly to my brain, bind a key. /ameatdonut or something.
I'm sticking wires in my ear right now:eek:!

Mar 02 2003 01:37pm

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

Master Bubu, I think I remember that _incident_ ..... but someone might have mindtricked me as well ;)

I have never seen anyone questioning a losing JAK/JAT whatever.....
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"Renfield, you idiot!"


Mar 02 2003 12:39am

Kalheka
 - Student
 Kalheka

Well put Aeth *bows to a true Knight*
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Mar 01 2003 01:47pm

OcarinaLink
 - Student
 OcarinaLink

Wow. Now I want to be a Knight....:P
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memento mori

Mar 01 2003 12:10pm

Dani
 - Ex-Student
 Dani

Great post aeth... Really.;)
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I've seen a lot
of strange things. But I've never seen
anything to make me believe there's another all-powerful force controlling everything.


Feb 28 2003 06:50am

Lord Exar Kun
 - Student
 Lord Exar Kun

I totally agree aeth.
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-Retired april the 19th 2004

Feb 27 2003 06:06pm

Ruuk Haviser
 - Retired
 Ruuk Haviser

Great post, Aeth. I can't say much more, cause everyone below said it for me. [much to everyone's "long-post" dismay, i'm sure ;)]

-rh
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Back from the dead...

Feb 26 2003 02:09pm

Rogue
 - Student
 Rogue

1 word. Perfect.
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I was a child when I joined the JA...scary.

Feb 26 2003 01:59pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

wow ive not noticed this thread untill now.
Nicely put, aeth :)


Feb 26 2003 08:11am

Aeth S'kray
 - Retired
 Aeth S'kray

woa, lots of comments. thanks for the kind words :)

i've added the point dicemaster said about having fun every now and then. thats quite important, i think ;) (huh? fun? whats that?)
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Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003

Feb 26 2003 05:24am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Holy C***! Are you saying that this Padawan is Arcuss? *Shivers* ;)

And are you saying that I'm in reality bad and they just lets me win? ;)

But seriously, I agree with you. You cannot judge one by a bad row of fights. They can have a bad day, their hardware/keyboard/mouse could be bad, they could lose with purpose to give someone confidence. If you are stupid enough (it might be that calling someone stupid is a little harsh for someone, but I really see them as that) to question someones abillity to be a Knight just because of their fights, you shall not wonder why you can't get promoted to Knight.

Again I must say that I agree with you, a Knight should always try to hold his/hers ego in place.

/me bows before the almighty Yoda-type


PS: If you ever see me do something as stupid as questioning a JAK, JAT or JAC without joking, please don't hesitate to remind me of how stupid it is, but I don't think you need to be afraid of me harrasing a JAK. First of all it would really ruin my chances of butt kissing my way into the rank of Knight (:D), and second of all, Denmark have an unoffical law (not to be followed all the time of course) that says; "You shall not think you are better than the rest of us, you shall not think you are something," and so on.

Again, respect to you and all the JAK's!

Feb 26 2003 04:46am

xAnAtOs
 - Student

Man, this is deep! ;)
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Feb 26 2003 03:50am

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

Yesterday was in a server with this guy padawan. was in there with some other knights, we were all asking who this guy was. He just goes "I am padawan that is my name" So he chalenges me to duel, and I beat him, didn't even touch me. Then he changes his name to arcuss JAK. 'Oh dear I thought'. He went on to beat me about 10/1 :P

Just goes to show that the JAKs are all about mental stuff (mind and phylosophy)since they can intimidate players just by being present, you people scare me :'(
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Descended from a line of great Jedi
Will argue any point of view from any side :D


Feb 26 2003 02:10am

Ash
 - Eats Babies
 Ash

I whole heartliy agree with this. The people who have the guff to question whether someone is a knight because of a few losses is obviously someone who will never be a knight.

Evertbody has thier bad days when they play. No body can be perfect. Knights are people too. Somedays they just want to get on a server and have fun, not rack up kills.

Bah I hate egos.
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"We keep odd hours...." ----------------------- They Live, We Sleep

Feb 26 2003 01:49am

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

*bows*

i love you brother aeth... you have said it all!

i recall at least one incident when i was training one of my padawans, i purposely adopted a bad dueling technique, for the training. Someone watched me fight, and after i lost, he said something along the lines that he doesn't believe i'm a JAK and bla bla bla bla bla.... i was so surprised, even shocked, to hear a student say something like that i didn't have anything to say.. i just ignored him.

i can already see, just from reading people's posts on the forums, potential future knights. without knowing or ever seeing someone duel, you can tell if that someone is JAK material or not. so nobody should judge JAKs, or anyone for that matter, by their skill as button-pressers... ;)

*bows to his fellow JAKs and other JA-mates*

respec... lol :D
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Feb 26 2003 01:33am

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

Well put Aeth. Lord knows how much pressure there is for the Knights/JAT/JAC's to play well. Boy do I shoot that theory down in a duel (I just reinstalled.. gimme a bit to get my skills back.. you're all going down then. :))

The knights are chosen by the JATs and JACs for their character first and skill second.
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Feb 25 2003 11:56pm

ioshee
 - Student
 ioshee

That's Spongecake Squarepants to you sir.
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One of the Belouve boys

Feb 25 2003 11:19pm

Charon
 - Ex-Student
 Charon

Spongecake.
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battlefield of broken glass
fallen speak to me --Charon


Feb 25 2003 10:53pm

SilkMonkey
 - Distributor of Cold Ones
 SilkMonkey

you mean i've never beat Arcuss?

aww man...

Seriously, well said. I think that we should make A'eth our official philospher here at the JA.
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Feb 25 2003 08:55pm

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

and usually come with egos that make their heads so big that they can't get through normal sized doors. Usually that's the type of person I see when someone likes to call themself l33t
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When you are going through Hell, keep going.
-Sir Winston Churchill.

Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Feb 25 2003 08:51pm

Vaughn
 - Student
 Vaughn

l33t play0rz mean - leet players, or, very good gamers
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Feb 25 2003 08:40pm

YubYub
 - Student
 YubYub

what does "a 1337 player" mean? BTW, well put Aeth. Very impressed, moved, elightened and touched by your stirring speech.

Seriously. I think you are right on every point and hope that some of the more....unruly elements in the academy have a chance to talk to you.

Feb 25 2003 08:37pm

Trad Redav
 - Student
 Trad Redav

lol

i agree. totally

ey chainer, more knights that aeth are l33t lol

hmm... i still need to get back at ss- i mean ShadowSith, sry aeth:\ - * for beating me twice in a row, kick fight. hmmph

j/k :D though he did beat me...


*i remember seeing once a post of aeth asking others not to call shadowsith ss... something-or-other of having to do with the german language... hmm...
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Feb 25 2003 08:09pm

Chainer
 - Ex-Student
 Chainer

Aeth S'Kray<------ a knight but he can also be a 1337 playor lol =) very well put

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