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ozzcoz - Cosplay Nerd  |
Well i was playing on the servers when i had what I personally think is an intersting idea. So listen up.  I have been around the academy for a while now, and while I still find it a ton of fun, sometimes i yearn for something more. Something to achieve by being here. A lot of people join here and set themselves the goal of being a JAK, even though we all know JAK is not a status symbol, but a responsibility and a job. However perhaps some members become dissatified in the knowledge that they will probably never be anything more than a JAS/JAP. They can't exactly just apply to be a JAK  . However it doesn't necessarily have to be that way.So heres my idea: What if we had a set of "certificates" to show that a student had achieved a level of skill or knowledge. For example we could have an award to show that a student had mastered the basics of red stance. Or that they had shown they understood CTF tactics. We wouldn't make it compulsary for students to attain these awards. However they would serve to show that by attending classes and practising they had achieved something. I think this sense of achievement may be just the thing to keep students interested. And to give anyone who wishes to try for them something to aim for, an objective from their time. The other important thing is that by someone achieving an award they don't have to uphold any special responsibilities like a ranked member would. Thay are simply recognised for their achievement. They don't have to be especially trustworthy, popular, or any of those special qualities of a knight. It would be a more open thing to all members. How would they be assessed? Well i have a few ideas as to how that could be done. But right now I'd rather get some feedback on what YOU the members think of this idea. So vote AND post, please.  --Just trying to improve the already great Jedi Academy  _______________ A wizard did it. |
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thedestroyer - Student 
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I got an idea:get someone to get a rank with no trial (new rank)that alows them to put up the sertificit on someones profile. |
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Squibit - Student 
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OK so we don't have global Jedi Academy certificates. All we need is one JAK (preferably JAT) who specialises in a certain area (Motrec usuing duals or aratan with guns springs to mind ) to offer a "class" once a week called "Dual saber trials" Get JAC approval of course, we know they already have the skills in the field as they are JAT. They make thier own system maybe 3 - 5 levels and trial those at the "class". People may then choose if they with to add to their sig or profile description "Passed level 3 of Motrec's Dual sabre trials" or what ever All this would need is four or five trainers to fine time to fit another hour session into their scheduals. I know that they do an awful lot for us already but im sure a few of you guys can find an extra hour to improve student moral _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
This comment was edited by Squibit on Sep 13 2004 06:18pm. |
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Roan, we did have certification classes of sorts, back when there were multiple student ranks. However, JAK's and JAT's were so busy with trialing people for student ranks that we had no time to teach, or even train ourselves, or have any fun. We like to keep things simple at the JA, and not over-complicate things. Student certifications and whatnot are not necessary - but nobody said we can't commend students for their progress |
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Seth C. Belouve - Student 
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I'm with my brothers on this one...I vote yes, printable certificates is a great Idea. Its really memorabelia of your time here. Just something nice to have and whats to say people will join soley to get certificates...It won't do you any good. It can't elevate you to a new rank, its just something fun to get. And honestly anybody who cheats for a certificate is realy truely sad, if they want a desk full papers for things they didn't do and won't benefit them anyhow then I say let them have it.... whatever it takes to let them fall asleep at night and whats this "snail mail"  you mean there was something before e-mail... _______________ Look unto me for I possess the blue flag!! It is more beautiful then I ever imagined! You will now worship me as if I were a god! *smack, dies* I regret nothing, I lived as few men dared dream!! Red Guy from Red Vs. Blue Series |
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Roan Belouve - Retired 
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I voted Yes. Nice idea!! I understand how people may feel they want a little recognition for how they have improved. Personally I just like to come in a have fun. Whilst i understand the logistics might cause a problem. I have a few Suggestions that may help this work. * Replace some classes with Cert Classes. Format - 4(or so) Students who enroll have a chance to pass a trial rated by the JAK(teacher). If they pass (They can add a Note to there profile E.g JA Red Stance Lvl 2, JA Guns Lvl 3, JA Yellow Countering Lvl1 *Simple objective can be set based on current class formats. * Time limits set on reapplying, if failed, and restrict the number of Certs classes a student can enrol in every month to prevent a few students monopolising Cert Classes. Just my ideas to add to Ozz nice post. MTFBWYA _______________ *Bro to Vaxxla,Padawan of FiZZandOdan-Wei Part of the mighty Belouve Dynasty-Knight of Nippledom.Twin of Selphestal!**Proud Master to Kaelis and Acura Friend to anyone who would call me the same . Pic by the amazing Majno (merry)
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thedestroyer - Student 
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well i think that if you would get like 100 certificits you could take the trials for a new rank.and when you take a trial your certificit points go down (but still ses you have that number but every sertificit is 1 point).So every 100 points you can get a new rank or if you have points you don't want someone can answere a quezz of your chose and if they answere 100% they get the amount of points you are giving away.And the sirtificts would be posted on your profile. This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Sep 13 2004 01:05am. |
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ozzcoz - Cosplay Nerd 
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I don't think they would have to monitor every student, just the ones who asked to try and get a certification. And I also don't see why people why bother to "cheat" to get their hands on a certificate? What is teh point of that? And some people are just going to do the whole collecting thing no matter what you do. I personally don't think thats a valid excuse. I mean why have JAK's if people are just going to treat it as a race to see who can get it fastest? That doesn't happen much does it? So why not have a little faith in your fellow gamer, eh? _______________ A wizard did it. |
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Italian Ice - Student 
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THEN THEY SHALL FAIL!!! _______________ It's funny how many people know they have the right to remain silent, yet never do. |
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Lancer007 - Student 
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Well the idea is great giving out certificates showing them that they have acheived something.But if you start doing that then some of the players here would only try to participate to only get certificates and try to become more popular than the other. |
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Italian Ice - Student
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that still exists! ya that would work. and besides if you cheated to get ur certificate, then whats the point in haveing it if your the only person who sits at ur desk and cares about it. _______________ It's funny how many people know they have the right to remain silent, yet never do. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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you mean the actual post? in which you also get bills and such?? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Squibit - Student
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So the JAC print it out and use snail mail to post it to people ! no logistics problems with that _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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I know what you mean, but who is going to monitor everyone to see if they have the necessary skills for the certificate? Besides, if it's a word document, what keeps us from giving it out to each other "Hey my mate! I'm selling a Red Stance Certificate. All you have to do is get me into your sig!" _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
Want to know Vladarion? Read the Article about his life here. This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Sep 12 2004 07:07am. |
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Italian Ice - Student
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what i was thinkin requires no logistices, just an email to them of a word document or something of a certificate so they can print it out and frame it and put it next to there Motrec idol... <.< >.> <.< of course I dont have one...... _______________ It's funny how many people know they have the right to remain silent, yet never do. |
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Zertz - Student 
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The only problem is the logistics nightmare I'm told about, I've not been here long enough to remember so I cannot say anthing for sure. I'll vote after some more research. _______________ Some friends wear pants, some don't. |
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ozzcoz - Cosplay Nerd 
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Well I'm glad to see theres some discussion going on anyway. A lot of good ideas and opinions. Perhaps something positive shall come of this after all. _______________ A wizard did it. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Well, it's not exactly a lie. This also gives them confidence so they are more likely to get it right. If you don't do this, they might just lose it and give up. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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when it is put the way Italian puts it, I think it's a far better idea than eg. a permie on your profile, or something like that I remember back in the jk2 ending days, that I had a learner trial, I think. Before I got that trial, I was like: "Oooh, I'm never gonna be JAK, it takes so long  "then I got the trial, and it really felt I was getting closer, and urged me to push on. So, some kind of recognition would be cool, because I don't think ANYONE at the Academy is ever gonna say: "Man, you suck at guns!" They'll most likely say: "I saw you making an improvement" which they know is a lie. That kind of eliminates the credibility of all congratulations-posts So to sum up, I like this idea, if it can come up through some cool form! _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
Want to know Vladarion? Read the Article about his life here. This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Sep 11 2004 03:57pm. |
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Italian Ice - Student 
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/me defends ozzcoz lol jk I like the idea, the only thing is i think everyone is takeing it in a really complicated way, that like it would be on your profile or something all teh certif's you have. I THINK (not shure) that he ment its just something you can print out and have a sentemental value. Think of it, a lil paper on your desk or something reminding you off all teh good times of the academy after you retire. _______________ It's funny how many people know they have the right to remain silent, yet never do. |
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OpTiMe - Student 
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Hmmmm I like the idea behind it, but as Mike said, with such a nice community who likes to comment anyway, you get enough praise from the amazing players and such Keitaro _______________ ------------------------ |
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Sauce - =^.^= 
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i'm happeh...give meh a dollar |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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I couldn't have said it better Mike. |
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ozzcoz - Cosplay Nerd
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Ty for your opinion Mike. When you look at it that way i kindof agree. But the thing is ppl compliment me all the time, even though i am not very good, so i get confused as to whether they are being sincere or not. :/ Then again the more i look at it, the more i see that this is not an idea that the academy is interested in. Now I'm not even sure it was a good idea anymore. Oh well, i guess the moral of the story is : don't get drunk and play CTF _______________ A wizard did it. |
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While I agree that commending students is a fantastic thing, and definately helps, I disagree with this idea. To me, a certificate basically a compliment, but in a tangible form. Personally, I believe that if people need some kind of certificate, or trophy, or whatever to feel that they've achieved something, to be quite vain. We don't need to make anything official here - in fact, we can start "awarding" students right now. How? It's simple - compliments, encouragement, pats on the back. Nothing stops people from posting on someone's profile with a comment saying "Hey, you did great at class today", or "Hey, awesome duels today". I don't do this nearly enough, but i'm going to make sure that I do, from now on. You should treasure every compliment you recieve - that, in itself, is better than any certificate. I hope this post helps with this discussion. |
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ozzcoz - Cosplay Nerd
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Well i was not here at the time of the class system so i have no personal experience of it and cannot comment on that. However i wasn't thinking about a points sytem thou, nor a system where each member is ranked as a different class neither. And i don't see why it would necasarily have to be administered by the currently ranked members either. Couldn't we have say 3-5 currently good dual saberists who adjudge whether or not a student is up to scratch? Look it was just an idea and if noone likes it thats ok. But if you do think there might be some merits could you post how you would do certain parts of it? _______________ A wizard did it. This comment was edited by ozzcoz on Sep 10 2004 06:47pm. |
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