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Virtue - Jedi Council  |
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Due to the amount of questions we receive at the JAC Q&A Sessions regarding Trials and Trial Procedures, I decided to write this FAQ.
I will add to it if more questions arise on the matter. 
------ What is involved in a Jedi Knight Trial? Jedi Knight Trials are very secret and only members of the JAK+ know exactly what is involved in one. The only information I will give out concerning what goes on, is that they consist of very precise and challenging tests of Skill, Morality, Mentality and Problem solving. Trials are skill specific, meaning that a Gunner won't be trialled, expecting to be highly skilled with a Lightsaber and/or Dueling. The Trials are engineered to be the ultimate test of an individual's specialty - IE. Gunning, Dueling, Full Force, etc. There are maps that have been built especially for the Trials and the maps themselves are built to test many of the prerequisites of being a Jedi Knight. Where are the Trial Maps and why are there no links to them on the site? See above. Jedi Knight Trials are very secret and mysterious. The only people who have these maps are the JAK+ and Students who are taking the Trials. The maps are sent to 'Trialees' via P2P (Peer To Peer) method (IRC, MSN, AIM, etc.) only minutes before their Trial starts, the maps are NOT uploaded to the website, nor can they be obtained via any hyperlink. Are Students allowed to watch other people being Trialled? No. Why all the secrecy? If everyone knew what was involved in the Trial procedures, the Trials would be made obsolete. People would train specifically just to pass the Trials, people would know about their secrets and answers and would render tests of morality, mentality and problem solving ineffective. Also, the Trials serve as a test of how people behave under extreme, stressful or nervous situations. There is a certain feel/atmosphere around Jedi Knight Trials and taking them which adds to the excitement of them. If everyone knew about them and what was involved in becoming a Jedi Knight - then all of this would be destroyed. The Academy would be made a little less exciting and we wouldn't be sure of the people we were promoting in respect to mentality, admin abuse, spirit and many of the other key things associated with being a Jedi Knight at the JA. How is anyone supposed to pass a Trial if they don't know anything about what is in them? I will not deny that the Jedi Knight Trials are very hard. But at the same time, if you are active in the JA and you attend Classes and/or Padawan sessions frequently, then you will be taught how to do many of the things that are involved in the Trials, we just don't tell you that you are learning Trial material. 
Not only do we teach you to be a better JK3 player, but we subtly teach you how to pass Trials. Each and every Class here at the JA has something different for you to learn about passing a Trial, you just won't know that you're learning it. 
Can you at least tell us about the procedure of Knight selection? That, I can do.
Students at the JA are constantly being evaluated by ranked members, even the freshly new recruits. Not in a very 'official' way, we're not spying on your every movement or anything - rather, we are merely watching how skilled you are, what you have learned from Classes/Padawan Sessions and how well you use the information you have learned. Your attitude and how you interact with other people is also a high factor in this procedure, how helpful you are and how you behave in some of those 'tricky' situations (Eg. When someone is laming, when someone is being offensive/annoying etc.). Don't be fooled by this, though, your input in these situations is neither required or requested - if a JAK+ is dealing with an offender, you are expected to carry on playing as normal - do not get involved. If there are no ranked members present, simply remind the offender of the rules in a diplomatic way whilst taking screenshots/condumps/demos of the offending actions and trying to contact a ranked member immediately. If your actions are found to be worthy of an opportunity for a Jedi Knight Trial, your name will be brought before the entire JAK+ body and you will be discussed. Factors that will influence this discussion are your attitude, skill, activity, your willingness to help others and your presence to most of the ranked members (The 'aura' you give). If, after this discussion, you are found to be a worthy candidate, you are then 'toggled'. What does 'Toggled' mean? 'Toggling' basically means "Your account at the JA has been flagged, opening it up to Trial information". There are four steps to Jedi Knight Trials, being toggled is the first. Once you are toggled, you can take the next step, which is the written exam. This consists of a list of questions for you to answer concerning the JA, the rules and/or policies, various in-game things, etc. Once you have submitted this exam, it is then discussed by the JAK+ and then graded by a JAC. If you get a 'pass' on your exam, you can then take the next step in the Trials.
How long are the Trials? If you mean 'How long are they from the day you are toggled, to the day you become a Jedi Knight', at shortest it can take two to three weeks to complete the entire process, in many cases, it can take a lot longer. There is a lot involved, especially for you.
What happens if someone fails a Trial? If, at any point during the process, a Trial is failed, then the potential Knight is given one more chance to get it right - A 'Re-Trial' is then scheduled no earlier than two weeks after the first initial failure. The potential Knight may not "pick up where he/she left off" ether, they must retake the entire Trial (Yes, I know, we are evil ).
If the re-trial is also failed, then the potential Knight is de-toggled and will remain a Student. This does not mean that this particular Student is discluded from Knight recommendations and discussions in the future, though. If someone who has failed a Trial is, over time, seen to have grown alot in skill and mentality, then they can indeed be considered to be toggled again. If a Student fails a Trial AND the Re-Trial, how long must he/she wait before being considered again? There is no time frame. It is simply a case of observation, just like any other Student. If that Student is seen to possess the skills required to pass a Jedi Knight Trial, then they will be discussed and toggled again. I really want to help this community by becoming a Jedi Knight, but so far, I have been unable to find a Master who can train me! Please do NOT be under the impression that "only Padawans are considered for Jedi Knights". This simply isn't true. We've had many Jedi Knights and Jedi Trainers in the past who have never had a Master at all. As long as you go to Classes, are active and are seen to be helpful and respectful, you will stand out to the ranked members. If you attend enough Classes here at the JA, you will learn what you need to learn.
------ - Virtue. 
_______________ Academy Architect This post was edited by solitude on Apr 18 2009 11:04pm. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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A Lesson On Secrecy
Jedi Knight Trials These are secret, because if everybody knew what they were being tested on, they would train specifically to pass the tests themselves rather than training everything else as well. Troublemaker Details These are kept secret for two reasons. The first is that we want to keep the place as peaceful and seemingly trouble-free as possible. The second is that it would cause a lot of unnecessary flaming of them and degrade the community. Jedi Knight Requirements These haven't been particularly hidden or revealed; they are quite easy to see. Activity is a requirement - when knights are toggled they are active players in the community. Complaints These need to be kept private, again, to avoid a public rant and flame about it. There will always be problems and it is easier if you allow us to solve them professionally rather than in front of a demoralised crowd. Remember we are human as well. Anything Else That's Secret Anything else that's secret, is not particularly secret. We just try to preserve the mystery for new students and keep everything professional. This comment was edited by solitude on Apr 18 2009 11:08pm. |
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ZantuS - Student 
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How is it possible that Masta was made knight then? He hasn't been active on the servers.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not jealous or anything. _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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SaZ - Student 
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i see where is this going. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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Yes. |
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ZantuS - Student 
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Quote: Does one have to be active on the servers to become a knight? _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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Cuthalion - Padawan 
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Now I understand those questions... _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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ZantuS - Student
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Does one have to be active on the servers to become a knight? _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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Yes. |
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ZantuS - Student
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Can you be toggled even if you're not recommended in the recommendation topic? _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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Va'kion - Student 
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This is very helpful.
~Va'kion _______________ I'm a resident Ashlan Philosopher |
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Z�diac Grimclaw - Ex-Student 
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thats how the recomendations ended lol _______________ Facta non verba. Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis. Timendi causa est nescire... |
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RevanStudent (JAS) - Student 
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thank u very much i found this a big help thanks.
Revan _______________ KTB |
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SaZ - Student
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Is it true to become a JAK you have to engage in a thumb war with one of the JAT's and if your successful, your a JAK?
And that it's just tricky because all the JAK's and JAT's are world class thumb warriors... We can neither confirm or deny what is contained in the trial.
Edit: IT'S VERY SECRET!  do you have to clean academy floor from bantha poo? _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Quote: Is it true to become a JAK you have to engage in a thumb war with one of the JAT's and if your successful, your a JAK?
And that it's just tricky because all the JAK's and JAT's are world class thumb warriors... We can neither confirm or deny what is contained in the trial.
Edit: IT'S VERY SECRET! _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
Owner Of Virtue's 1000th profile comment, Mr. Doobie's 1000th profile comment, Gradius' 2500th comment, xAnAtOs' 2500th comment, Rosered's 1500th comment, Laziana's 900th comment, Scythus' 500th comment and Echuu's 100th comment This comment was edited by solitude on Jan 30 2009 10:31pm. |
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Cuthalion - Padawan 
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Is it true to become a JAK you have to engage in a thumb war with one of the JAT's and if your successful, your a JAK?
And that it's just tricky because all the JAK's and JAT's are world class thumb warriors... _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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Z�diac Grimclaw - Ex-Student 
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Quote: I was trying to be sarcastic, sorry for the confusion. No, i do not believe they are easy. They should be challenging, for what would the Knights come to if they where easy. I just like being funny.
And im not even that experienced in the ways of the games.LOL told ya it was sarcasam! _______________ Facta non verba. Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis. Timendi causa est nescire... |
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Bane of the Sith - Student 
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I didnt say i was horrible either! LOL! _______________ May the Force be with us always. |
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Cuthalion - Padawan
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Quote: im not even that experienced in the ways of the games.LOL
Then time you learnt! Best of luck. If you need any help, dont hesitate to ask. _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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Bane of the Sith - Student
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I was trying to be sarcastic, sorry for the confusion. No, i do not believe they are easy. They should be challenging, for what would the Knights come to if they where easy. I just like being funny. And im not even that experienced in the ways of the games.LOL _______________ May the Force be with us always. This comment was edited by Bane of the Sith on Jan 09 2009 12:50am. |
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Cloud Senatu - Student 
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Quote: i think he was being sarcastic. if not, easy or not, the fact is that not everybody has passed the trials so that means that the trials arent as easy or hard as it sounds. who knows, maybe the trials are even harder
Agreed... The trials I'm sure are very hard for some people... but are very easy to a few... |
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Z�diac Grimclaw - Ex-Student
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i think he was being sarcastic. if not, easy or not, the fact is that not everybody has passed the trials so that means that the trials arent as easy or hard as it sounds. who knows, maybe the trials are even harder _______________ Facta non verba. Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis. Timendi causa est nescire... |
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Cuthalion - Padawan
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Quote: The Jedi Trials seem..........enteresting, and slightly hard. Though for us more experienced players, it should be easy.
lol! If they were Easy there would be more than one active JAK. Lol. Nope, nope and thrice nope. _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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Bane of the Sith - Student
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The Jedi Trials seem..........enteresting, and slightly hard. Though for us more experienced players, it should be easy. lol! _______________ May the Force be with us always. |
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Cloud Senatu - Student
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This information is very helpful!
Once I have the time to actually put towards my JA training again... I will try to attend the classes once again... Even though, when I did try this before, I failed and never got to attend a class... I was busy with my work and never knew just when I would be working... Now, if I do miss classes, I shouldn't miss as many as I used to... I should only miss one, maybe two a week... if I'm able to take thus many... Tsukiko, Leader of the Jedi Faction in KCR!
Cloud Senatu, member of the Senatu Family! This comment was edited by Cloud Senatu on Dec 25 2008 08:49am. |
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The Cookie - Student 
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Seems so |
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Cuthalion - Padawan
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Very true, Lol! Back to my coffee! _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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