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-=Nomad=- - Student  |
http://www.petitiononline.com/sd5a1492/petition.html here's the petition to see jka as an official discipline  i think the game we all love has his place in !-=Nomad=- _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the [url=http://www.thejediacademy.net/show_profile.php?f_id=4651]Odan's wei[/url]...  Brother to [url=http://www.thejediacademy.net/show_profile.php?f_id=8129]Solitude[/url]  Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! This post was edited by -=Nomad=- on Jul 14 2005 02:55am. |
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AvaloN - Student 
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Quote: gil has hit it on the head indeed. |
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Ecks - Student 
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I find patience works quite well with exploits. I don't have some guaranteed to work, infomercial quality move I use to beat exploits. I just wait. I see a someone spinning like a top... I wait for him to stop, and at the right moment, overhand him as he jumps away. Fanners? Just let them fan. They can't move forward and fan at the same time. Like Sazabi and Gil said... learn how to beat the exploits, and prove a point that enough skill can overcome anything. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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SaZ - Student 
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lol i love this definition 'boost'. i wonder who invented this  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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-=Nomad=- - Student 
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delay : boost jump+hit, exploit, NOT delayed combo... (p.s:like gil's position) bye _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Quote: However, although I choose not to use these types of moves, I have long since stopped getting worked up about others using them. It is their choice to play the game that way, and I am not in the position to tell them to do otherwise. In my clan we prefer not to recruit people who play that way, and that is also our choice. An important point to remember is that you are never forced to fight anyone. If you consider the way somebody plays to be cheating, dishonourable, boring or whatever, simply do not duel them. I often duel sploiters, either for practice, or to prove a point, but I dont have to, so I dont get worked up about it when they do their helicopter impressions or get their little bouts of jka parkinsons disease. gil has hit it on the head _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Gil-Galad - Student 
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RoseRed's quote pretty much sums up my feelings on sploits. I try my very best not to consciously perform swings that break the damage cap. Of course it still happens from time to time by accident, but I am far from a perfect duellist, as anyone I've duelled will attest to. However, although I choose not to use these types of moves, I have long since stopped getting worked up about others using them. It is their choice to play the game that way, and I am not in the position to tell them to do otherwise. In my clan we prefer not to recruit people who play that way, and that is also our choice. An important point to remember is that you are never forced to fight anyone. If you consider the way somebody plays to be cheating, dishonourable, boring or whatever, simply do not duel them. I often duel sploiters, either for practice, or to prove a point, but I dont have to, so I dont get worked up about it when they do their helicopter impressions or get their little bouts of jka parkinsons disease. _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life |
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SaZ - Student
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nomad if you are saying that delaying is exploit... then try to learn how to defeat it if you simply cant then say 'no i cant learn anything'. as for me... im learning how to beat exploits ahh btw about delaying... it looks like exploit to you coz you simply forgot some basic things about jk3. like 3 max red stance swings , playing defensively , watching for openings etc  all simple things > delays. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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if it makes you feel better, im a 'jump spammer' and i 'whore scissors and combos _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
Owner Of Virtue's 1000th profile comment, Mr. Doobie's 1000th profile comment, Gradius' 2500th comment, xAnAtOs' 2500th comment, Rosered's 1500th comment, Laziana's 900th comment, Scythus' 500th comment and Echuu's 100th comment |
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Tido - Student 
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Yeah someone called me a 'delay n00b' yesterday. I about ROFL'ed my pants off. I think the common phrase needs to be changed to "do you want some cheese with your jk3?" |
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Rosie - Student 
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Delayed swings is not an exploit. Using single stance, every swing of red, blur or yellow has a max cap of damage that it can give. Yellow's is 70, saying one swing can at it's maximum give 70 in dmg. So when you're dueling the dmg that you give your opponent is the sum of various factors: where you hit, the speed of our saber when you hit and if the opponent blocks or not. This is wiggle: Quote: achieved by a player moving their mouse quite fast in the direction thatt heir swing is going, confusing the Ghoul2 system into believing that the movement of the player's mouse is actually a part of the swing. As such it creates a sort of 'jump' whereby the Ghoul2 engine tries to bridge the gap between player movement (yaw) and lightsaber speed - resulting in overruling the damage cap rule, inscreasing the damage potential to be much higher than what the initial system is supposed to be. Delayed swing are just delayed there isn't any: abnormal damage It's just like any other swing. ty for readin This comment was edited by Rosie on Aug 11 2005 10:41pm. |
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Bo - Student 
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lol parrying is no where near an exploit, it was intentionally added to jk2 and jka. The question is, are the pokers even any good? Im not asking if you can win without poke, im asking if you can win WITH it. based on your expression of opinions about the game, i would have to say that your probably not that good anyway, so..poke away. As ive said earlier, poking is for the less skilled, and even when a good player pokes, they are skewing their own view of where you are at, which makes them easy targets. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: there's some with he didnt even tried to ^^ Guess why? Because it doesnt matter if i tell you why parrying isnt an exploit and how unrealistic and broken the velocity system of jk3 is or why i have stated that poking with an optical mouse is far easier then without...or how good you actually are able to poke with a sense of 1. Also, most of the things i didnt bother to discuss any further were pretty much based on obviousness, making them irrelevant to even point out by quotes. "A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat!" =) Oh and how do you conclude that i dont understand what you are typing? I presume i wont get an answer on this one since you have stated that you wont reply anymore (although i doubt you wont since you have said that so often already) and therefore i will assume that you just "u know ALL ABOUT ALL and are sure of it !", thus making me unable to understand the truth and trying to discuss it. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Aug 11 2005 09:45pm. |
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-=Nomad=- - Student 
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i say it for him kain,and if my arguments are weak, why cant he make just ONE thing to make them fall ? there's some with he didnt even tried to ^^ ( delays for example ) and mast definitely, i say what i say just cause each time i write u dont understand what i write ^^ i think u just dont want to, will b a too hard work for ya, too much steps back to do.u prefer give another sense to what i mean , i never said i wanted u to agree, it's just the way i see u select, reduce and interpretate it in an easier way ( this is a bit an easy way to argue i think ).lot of bla bla, no substance... u just dishonnest and this is where u are overowned here ^^ + the funny things u said about sense and harware for poke and etc... lol sry man u dont even answer to 10% of what i say and would pretend to have the last word, just cause of ur pride , ur image here i think... pardon, i lied, this is the lastpost. good luck and have fun eh ! ( not obvious... ) _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! This comment was edited by -=Nomad=- on Aug 11 2005 09:29pm. |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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What Kain said. Also, its kinda interesting that you keep accusing me of beeing simple-minded only because i dont agree with you. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Aug 11 2005 07:50pm. |
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Kainz00r - Jedi Knight 
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'Matt' never said his perspective was unchangable, but perhaps your arguements are too weak to pursuade him? _______________ Fervent supporter of duelling - leave a message if you would like to battle! Married to Masta. |
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-=Nomad=- - Student
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matt anyone is responsible of its own limits, particularly the one that makes someone not being able to learn from sthing that hurted him. about ur nice definition : apply it please ^^ why to give a lesson ? lol... think on that, u ll tell what u found ^^ but, no, because...man, this is my very last post here, u really funny,in spite of ur GREAT dishonnesty and... but i m gonna stop cause u could be hurted and insulted from now ^^ no more interest for me, just borrying,just yawning now... Well stay exactly on ur positions all ur life ! ur RIGHT not to change them cause u know ALL ABOUT ALL and are sure of it ! simple no ? Foolness ! you cant exchange NOTHING with that bad man thinking the other way ! cause ur mind is CLOSED to the ones who are wrongs^^ arf... u should b a policeman ADIOS ! _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! |
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-=Nomad=- - Student
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certitudes = bad never change mind = bad say poke is bad when playing with delays = bad say this is good , this is bad and b so sure of oneself in it as if u were the truth in person = sooooooo bad pride = bad manicheism = bad any dogma = bad difference = good tolerance ^^ = good loosing his time = bad stop loosing it = good say bye bye = good ! _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! This comment was edited by -=Nomad=- on Aug 11 2005 07:17pm. |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Quote: if someone IS hurted by what u say this is just because HE hurt himself with it So how can he hurt himself if he doesnt have a choice to not get hurt? If he actually cant not get hurt by your opinion, then the one who hurt him is not he himself, but you. Its like setting up spikes on the road which the person HAS to walk on. He doesnt have a choice but to walk down this road and if you choose to set up some spikes on that road which he has no other option left but to walk through, then it is you who hurt him, not he himself. Some wise guy once said that experience is the best teacher. This doesnt mean it gives you the right to necessarily hurt people only because you want to make them strong and learn from it. Your intentions whilst hurting people is trivial, i dont see why it should be necessary to hurt people in order to give them a lesson. If you want to actually help them get strong ect., then you dont have to rely on things which will hurt them. But i presume trying to do something like that is a lot harder then just bluntly pointing out the truth. Also, "to tolerate" is a verb which is based on the noun "tolerance". The meaning of both words remains the same which is: "The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others." - dictionary.com You see, i dont have to rip it all into your flesh for you to learn it and grow from it. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Aug 11 2005 07:05pm. |
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SaZ - Student
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im gonna continue your list of bad and good things. cheating = bad. exploiting the game = bad. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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-=Nomad=- - Student
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not their CHOICE, their unability not to be hurted, their unchoiceless about that i d even say ^^ not especially insults based on thruth, u wanna falsify all i say ( where were the insults ?? ), responsability ? YES i m responsible for the mind i put you in when u read me, and i ve no problem with it, even if ya have. sometimes pple like childs for example needs to be even hurted, it can b GOOD ! ( already said that , do u read ???? ), and , farther, tell me the bad about hurting someone just by telling what u think ? what , he s gonna cry, suffer ? ok... is he depressive, suicidal ? ok maybe... But, does he deserve ur frankness or not,at least as a lesson ?! do u like him ?! do u think he will b hurted ? what s ur trouble with conflict ? communication IS conflict ! and stop that coz u werent hurted and i knew u would not be... about tolerance, yes sometimes i shut my mouth not to hurt someone if u really cares about that ( lol ) , but what about yours , tolarance isnt tolarate, it is totally acceptation : of exploiters for example, of frank speaking , of black people, etc... ( i think u not only tolerate them ) No more lessons plz _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! This comment was edited by -=Nomad=- on Aug 11 2005 06:25pm. |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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So from what ive gathered, you say that everything non-physical, especially insults based on truth, dont necessarily have to hurt anyone because its their own choice if they get hurt by it or not? Dont you think the actual insulter should still take responsibility for risking that other people might hurt themselfs with what he said? Even when his intentions arnt hostile? You say that people who get hurt are most of the time not prepared to hear, accept and understand the truth. If you know that they arnt prepared to hear, accept and understand the truth and therefore will hurt themselfs by listening to your opinions, then why stating them? Isnt it actually a question of tolerance if you decide to not say certain things because you dont want to risk that others may hurt themselfs? _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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-=Nomad=- - Student
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Lol, well poke = fun = good being so serious about THE way to play = borrying and not open minded = bad ^^ ( time to make a break away from this game ? ) about "accusating" someone to poke is not from me, it's from u , because for me pokers arnt guilty ( u remember ? i like poke ! ) lol about kain, i repeat he poked me, about sensei, maybe not, but he delayed me , which is the cheapest and most obvious exploit u can do in this game so... and i dont know them, just dueled with ( but i guess ur trap here and... lol sensei ) and the last one : i didnt loosed control lol, i CHOOSE what i say and didnt found necessary to make it sweeter here but i notice a change : first it's insulting, and finally it's hurting... 2 different things, and i d just say: if someone IS hurted by what u say this is just because HE hurt himself with it, most of time coz he isnt prepared to hear, accept and understand it.that's why even if you are naughty and cruel, you wont necerarily succeed in hurting... anyway , in my country we say " only the truth hurts " and if it does it's because we have trouble with truth, but we all know only the truth makes u improve urself, so... hurting may be a great help.the question is only WHO are u talking to... what will he do with what u tell him ^^ the rest is choice business... i think u can be more than hurted, if ya were ^^ P.S: i made a peace movement as thin as it was, u strikes back ( polite but... diplomaSt ? lol ) so, take this one: taking a sentence out from it context and all that comes before and follow to criticize the expressed point of view is in my mind as cheap as poke in yours... i even wonder if u read what i write or only parts and then makes ur quotes about them lol^^ Ho about poke : i do it with 11 sensi with ball mouse, my clan leader with 9, another friend with 6,another 12... and, it NEEDS aiming and timing : would u call a poker a player who never hit when he pokes ? if he doesnt aim isnt he more... a noob ??? just try to wiggle without aming, lol u ll never poke anyone ! i d even say poke is harder to time than a classic hit, maybe sometimes it s even harder to aim when poking cause of the wiggle stuff particularly while movin, and dependings on the moment in the hit u gonna poke. cya, and have fun... _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! This comment was edited by -=Nomad=- on Aug 11 2005 05:57pm. |
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Rosie - Student 
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Poke, wiggle = bad ze end |
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SaZ - Student 
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sometimes it just looks that we ALL wiggle and stuff but thats just illusion coz of lag, ping difference etc. well kain and sensei masta (lol) are really good saberists and i dont think they need to poke. come on there is bunch of demos(here in forums) with kain and sensei masta having tffas with uber glitchers and they dont use glitches against them. ofcourse i may be wrong... maybe they go undercover and h4x us all _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Good thing im able to control myself and the way i throw my opinions around. If i would just say everything in an extremly blunt and honest way, i would hurt a lot of people for sure. Since this isnt my intention, im not doing it. Also, i have never seen kain nor sensei masta poke before. It seems that either i dont know them as good as you do, or you seem to have a different defintion of poking then i do. Or maybe you just like to accuse people of things they have not done and thus making them look bad infront of others. =) _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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