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Jul 12 2005 10:25pm

-=Nomad=-
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-=Nomad=-
http://www.petitiononline.com/sd5a1492/petition.html

here's the petition to see jka as an official discipline :) i think the game we all love has his place in !
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Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you !


This post was edited by -=Nomad=- on Jul 14 2005 02:55am.

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Aug 10 2005 05:46pm

-=Nomad=-
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 -=Nomad=-

Well, my purpose isnt to insult you or not matt, sorry for all that, but i have this character and just tell what i think and feel, and just how it comes to me... Maybe in a way it's kinda unpolite ( ? ), but it's frank and honnest ( which can be a definition of respect more than politeness ) .i'll just point at the fact i didnt use any insult like bastard or i dunno ( sry for writing this word ), i just dont feel sthing like that...
Ok, about the academy mind i cant say nothing, it's a long time i didnt connect to any server.
But the funny thing is last time i dueled with kain and sensei masta, they used poke and delays, and it seemed to cause no trouble with noone !?!
I think there s different ways to play jka in different places, like different cultures, and the ja is more yellow and scissors side than red and poke one... ok, there s good players from each side, using exploits or not.Personnally i just tried to open myself to ALL the ways to PLAY, to learn all of them , and, meet and have fun with ALL KIND of players, without limiting the exchange with judgements about styles.everything different brings you something and makes you stronger.
that's what i want to tell you matt :)
And, Sol ! hey :D So long time ! how r u ? what u say about the academy with johauna is sad , wow ! should go and have a look.anyway, hope all s going fine for ya :P
Hoping to catch you playing by there too :D
cya ^^

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Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you !


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Aug 08 2005 11:31am

solitude
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 solitude

perhaps, although ive found that often arguing about a subject people feel strong about tends to get them even more worked up.
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Aug 08 2005 10:57am

Masta
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 Masta

I agree. However, getting worked up over exploits in the first place will pretty much decrease your enjoment of the game. Im not sure but...doesnt complaining about something you got worked up about, have somesort of a venting-effect? Which means that you actually will feel better after having complained about it.
I still agree that it wont make you a better player (nor person) though.

Edit: Oh and i want to apologize to everyone for having caused another exploits discussion and nearly a flamewar. >_>
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This comment was edited by Masta on Aug 08 2005 10:59am.

Aug 08 2005 09:36am

solitude
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 solitude

oh yeah, whether its 'right' or 'wrong' people will 'exploit'. just remember that complaining about 'exploits', whatever they are to you will not make you a better player or enhance your enjoyment of the game.
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Aug 08 2005 09:34am

solitude
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 solitude

recently ive been playing under a variety of pseudonyms, the atmosphere has changed from when i first joined...recently as that was.

btw, i remember when you first joined johauna, the late night training with me and squibit; fun times :) the real community will never die, itll stay as long as the players here remember how it used to be and act in the same way as before.
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Aug 08 2005 09:16am

†Johauna Darkrider†
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 â€ Johauna Darkrider†

Sadly, I was on the server recently (well, though not real name... I prefer to hide myself..) and I got really strange wievs of some people, teling me 'ooh, nice wiggle'. Sorry to say that - but where tolerance and friendship did go from this place? :confused:
Besides the fact I wasn't wiggling, I just can't see the friendliness of this place, where everyone was willing to help out to anyone... makes me sad and ensures me that *real* JKA community is dead. :(
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Aug 06 2005 10:34pm

Bo
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 Bo

The way I see it, exploits are here to stay. That said, they are NOT the most effective way to win. Somebody who has truly mastered the saber does not use exploits, not necessarily because its dishonorable(which is one of the reasons i dont use them) but because it simply isnt the most effective way to fight. I liken exploits to the jka equivalent of what yoda says about the darkside, its quicker, easier, more seductive. Nubs see someone doing it, and how efficiently it kills, so they begin doing it themselves. The real challenge in this game is learning the subtleties. Exploits do 3 things, they make hits do more damage, they make hits land that shouldn't, and they create blocks that shouldn't occur. I have found that exploiters will get the occasional one or 2 hit kill on me, but for the most part, I find them easy to defeat, however annoying they might be. I've heard all the: try it, its not as easy as it looks. Well, I'm here to tell you, it is very easy. Try 10 or so blue diagonals, then tell me which is harder. All of that said, there is no reason not to have JKA in competition, because if you can't beat exploiters, you wouldn't have gone very far anyway.
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Aug 06 2005 10:25pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

I think this thread has about served it's purpose.
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Aug 06 2005 08:38pm

Fire
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 Fire

Simma' down now boy n' girls

Aug 06 2005 07:05pm

Masta
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 Masta

Heh, no need for insults though. I havnt been insulting you neither, have i?
Also, i think ive stated already that i agree with everything you said. Even if its just to avoid a confrontation and more insults.
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This comment was edited by Masta on Aug 06 2005 07:09pm.

Aug 06 2005 05:03pm

-=Nomad=-
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 -=Nomad=-

u r incredible, they just own you man, and explain only ur ignorance and excessive pride, u just got a narrow mind, but if u want more explanations : poke a poke and u can get a red counter, just hit the saber as u parry in yellow, i say parrying is an exploit cause it deliver, noone knows why, more damage than a scissor hit without counter, sometimes it even gives a delay animation, it's realistic that, when being poke, that is to say u receive several hits in one ( and without animation )u receive more damage, so yes, u dont knoiw all that, and u totally wrong sorry. u guy need hardware to poke ( let me laugh )and u dont even answer me about delays and jumpsmashes ( if u know what it is ) so.... end of unpleasant disussion with ya ;(
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Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you !


This comment was edited by -=Nomad=- on Aug 06 2005 05:04pm.

Aug 05 2005 10:42pm

Masta
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 Masta

Oh excuse me for quoting you. I wasnt trying to be ironic at all tbh. Well, i was just simply pointing out a few things from your post. I guess i couldve added a bit more myself but i dont think it was necessary since it wouldve just caused even more arguments and besides...the quotes are quite self-explanatory imo.
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This comment was edited by Masta on Aug 05 2005 10:43pm.

Aug 05 2005 04:41pm

-=Nomad=-
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 -=Nomad=-

Johauna u roxxxxx ! :D
I love what u say girl, this is exactly and only what matter about the poke discussion: just have fun, and forget all the rest, no more ethic needed, thx ^^
and mat, ur irony is just... ignorant auto-satisfaction and really disapointing :\ ok let's forget
Johauna, i play with nichos and angelus sometimes, i really love them and they are great players, nice to meet u girl ! ;)
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This comment was edited by -=Nomad=- on Aug 05 2005 04:47pm.

Aug 04 2005 01:39pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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Everytime I see argument/flame between 'nopokers' and 'pokers' I only smile a bit.
This game is not about poke or non poke. It's about how you move, how you watch your opponent and his actions. About timing of your own actions.
Poking is just some style of how the game is played. It's up to people if they are here to have fun or just cry 'OMG, a poker! Why I can't beat him?'

My friend angelus can beat pokers, without even using poke. Why? Because he tried. He trained to move, to react on opponent's actions. Another friend of mine - nichos doesn't use poke too.
It IS possible to play without poke, but I think it really doesn't matter.

When I fight with somebody, I often look at his/her character. Dureal is nice example - he's the best in ESL ladders, but what's much more important for me - his character is unaffected by this. He's not arrogant, he's not a flamer. He uses a poke, but why it should be reason for arguing? Train your skills to get better, not waste your time with crying! Have fun with the game!

Oh, and you might ask me if I'm poker or not. Yeah, I'll admit freely. I am poker. I started at non poke, but then I 'fall' to poking. However, if somebody would be polite player and asked me for no poke, I would stop it.

You see, all these arguments are really pointless.
Have fun with JKA!



...pwnt? i totaly agree.. 100% i have had poking. and i do poke sometimes on publics. and indeed. if ur gunan whine please..jusyt..whine somewhere else. its a game. relax. there is no need to get annoyed and stressed ebcuase there is a poker.if they ar idiots then yes. i agree. you may be annoyed. but 90% of pokers arent as*holes bh.
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Aug 01 2005 07:47pm

†Johauna Darkrider†
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 â€ Johauna Darkrider†

Everytime I see argument/flame between 'nopokers' and 'pokers' I only smile a bit.
This game is not about poke or non poke. It's about how you move, how you watch your opponent and his actions. About timing of your own actions.
Poking is just some style of how the game is played. It's up to people if they are here to have fun or just cry 'OMG, a poker! Why I can't beat him?'

My friend angelus can beat pokers, without even using poke. Why? Because he tried. He trained to move, to react on opponent's actions. Another friend of mine - nichos doesn't use poke too.
It IS possible to play without poke, but I think it really doesn't matter.

When I fight with somebody, I often look at his/her character. Dureal is nice example - he's the best in ESL ladders, but what's much more important for me - his character is unaffected by this. He's not arrogant, he's not a flamer. He uses a poke, but why it should be reason for arguing? Train your skills to get better, not waste your time with crying! Have fun with the game!

Oh, and you might ask me if I'm poker or not. Yeah, I'll admit freely. I am poker. I started at non poke, but then I 'fall' to poking. However, if somebody would be polite player and asked me for no poke, I would stop it.

You see, all these arguments are really pointless.
Have fun with JKA!
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Jul 31 2005 07:22pm

SaberWeildinKow
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 SaberWeildinKow

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If someone does it to you, then spam spin and poke on em. When they get mad and call u a noob, say "You started it!. lol"


lol, I remember a good few months back I had a macro bound for when I beat a sploiter out on the pubs, it'd say something like "Wiggles Sux0rs!!!" :P Great satisfaction it gave me I must admit (specially when a couple guys ended up stopping).

Jul 29 2005 01:32pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

this wont work..at all.. :\ im all for it but it just wouldnt work :(
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Jul 22 2005 09:36am

Jacen Aratan
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I just read that petition.... how about making a *persuading* petition? That was just a little plead, as far as I could tell. :s

Jul 20 2005 07:05pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

90 votes?
hahah you need like 2000 at minimum.
dont think im laughing of you nomad.
its just funny :P
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Jul 20 2005 03:49pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

OK I signed =)

*sighs* Sploits aren't going anywhere. Just get used to em. Their even poppin up all ove the academy. My rule:

If someone does it to you, then spam spin and poke on em. When they get mad and call u a noob, say "You started it!. lol"
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Jul 20 2005 08:37am

Jacen Aratan
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Wow, you people managed to turn this into an exploits-discussion. Paranoia 1 - Reason 0, you win a prize!


Anyways, back on topic, I won't be signing that petition, as:

1) PetitionOnline does not work. No, it doesn't. No. Just... no.

2) I bet it'll be like the ClanBase ladder where in the end, it ended up having horribly biased rules, ie for CTF: "saber only, 20 caplimit, 30 minutes", etcetera.

Jul 19 2005 04:57pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

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Might be the only shot in the world of motivating LA to make a patch.


LoL. Dude, you know as well as I do that there's not going to be another patch. :P


Cant blame one for hoping m8 :D

Jul 18 2005 07:39pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

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Might be the only shot in the world of motivating LA to make a patch.


LoL. Dude, you know as well as I do that there's not going to be another patch. :P
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Jul 18 2005 02:25pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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Might be the only shot in the world of motivating LA to make a patch.

in their eyes I bet nothing is wrong ...

And anyway
we should participate ... it would be a good advertisement for the JA :P
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Jul 18 2005 01:02pm

Tido
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 Tido

Might be the only shot in the world of motivating LA to make a patch.

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