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Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince (Spoilers)
Jul 18 2005 04:55am

Flash
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Flash
Anyone read it yet/want to discuss it? I just finished it a few minutes ago, and man, it was tough to get through the end. I have to admit it was pretty intense for me.:eek:

Anyways, I won't talk about what happened just yet, I'm not sure how many other HP fans are out there and spent a lot of time reading it right away, but I'd like to hear from you!

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Aug 12 2005 04:49am

Grycen
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I remember reading the bit where he gets killed over a few times to get it into my head.


Same here, same here.
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Aug 12 2005 04:34am

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I'd put the argument in the woods moreso to asking the favor of Snape taking Dumbledore's life than Dumbledore finding out Snape's Occlumency scheme.
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Aug 11 2005 01:28pm

Dicemaster
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The only person we know who could be RAB is regulas black, and as you said he was a death eater and in the letter it said "dark lord". But, he also died a long while ago, so he might of given it to someone, or hidden it somewhere else (the horcrux that is).

Also, ive been thinking of something. In book 5, Snape is supposedly teaching Harry Occlumency. But Harry says that after the teachings he feels more vulnerable to Voldemort rather than less. So then, near the end of book 5, Voldemort actually posseses Harry, but Voldemort cant hold it for very long. In book 6, Dumbledore says the reason for this is because Harry's mind was filled with emotion. But when Snape was teaching Harry Occlumency, he told Harry to empty his mind! It seems to me like he was intentionally teaching him the wrong thing. If he was, dont you think that is enough evidence to prove that Snape is indeed evil?


Thats an interesting POV. I had forgotten the snape teaching occulmency thing. That could be true. Snape could be completely evil after all. Maybe Dubledore had figured this out, and thats what the argument in the woods was about?
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Aug 10 2005 08:50pm

DarthMike
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The only person we know who could be RAB is regulas black, and as you said he was a death eater and in the letter it said "dark lord". But, he also died a long while ago, so he might of given it to someone, or hidden it somewhere else (the horcrux that is).

Also, ive been thinking of something. In book 5, Snape is supposedly teaching Harry Occlumency. But Harry says that after the teachings he feels more vulnerable to Voldemort rather than less. So then, near the end of book 5, Voldemort actually posseses Harry, but Voldemort cant hold it for very long. In book 6, Dumbledore says the reason for this is because Harry's mind was filled with emotion. But when Snape was teaching Harry Occlumency, he told Harry to empty his mind! It seems to me like he was intentionally teaching him the wrong thing. If he was, dont you think that is enough evidence to prove that Snape is indeed evil?
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Aug 10 2005 05:21pm

Grycen
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I don't believe that to be honest :-/ I don't think Black knew what kind of things Voldemort used to keep himself alive (the information was covered up pretty good if you ask me) and I don't think he would've cared enough to look deeply into it, Harry had Dumbledore pushing him.


However, there's something that might also tie Black to the locket. In the letter, Voldemort is adressed as "to the Dark Lord", a term mostly used by Death Eaters, but this of course is just a theory and we'll just have to wait it out. :p
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Aug 10 2005 12:41pm

Akkarin
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well i finished the book a week or 2 ago, it was abit slow going but the end made up for all that. I think snape is still with the good guys and that dumbledore knew something like this would happenand i was kinda arranged. I think that dumbledore told harry to fetch snape rather than madam promfry or whatever her name is becuase he knew he had to die now while the death eaters were there. i think the whole thing was part of a master plan of dumbledore's, he taught harry everything about voldemort and pritty much told him how to kill him, and it's said that harry is the only one that can kill him so i think dumbledore died to force harry into some kind of action... maybe :confused: well that's my though, oh and about R.A.B not sure about that but whoever wrote it refered to voldemort as The Dark Lord and arn't death eaters the only ones who call him that? so ex death eater maybe?
well guess we gotta wait till book 7 to ind out for sure.

Aug 05 2005 12:33am

Mic Den Octela
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 Mic Den Octela

I finished a while ago.. but I forgot 'bout this thread :D.

I knew someone was going to die, I think most people did.. but I never pictured it being Dumbeh. I remember reading the bit where he gets killed over a few times to get it into my head.
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Jul 30 2005 09:25pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

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yes in english they are
Harry potter and the sorcers stone
Harry potter and the chamber of secrets
harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban
harry potter and the goblet of fire
harry potter and the order of the phoenix
harry potter and the half blood prince
harry potter and a book i really want to read, but won't come out for like 2 years:(


When will you people learn? The first book is called The PIHILOSOPHERS Stone, it was renamed for the USA, once again no idea why


It was renamed that so it would sell better here, because most people in europe don't think we're the smartest fish in the sea. My fathers a college professor with a Ph.D in philosophy, so atleast I know what one is and what they do :P
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Jul 30 2005 09:21pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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After all, they're written in English and you'll miss 80 % of the subtle word use if you don't read it the proper way (in English ;))

you mean like "Madame Hooch" ? :D
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Jul 30 2005 07:27pm

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yes in english they are
Harry potter and the sorcers stone
Harry potter and the chamber of secrets
harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban
harry potter and the goblet of fire
harry potter and the order of the phoenix
harry potter and the half blood prince
harry potter and a book i really want to read, but won't come out for like 2 years:(


When will you people learn? The first book is called The PIHILOSOPHERS Stone, it was renamed for the USA, once again no idea why
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Jul 30 2005 07:24pm

Raider
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 Raider

I don't believe that to be honest :-/ I don't think Black knew what kind of things Voldemort used to keep himself alive (the information was covered up pretty good if you ask me) and I don't think he would've cared enough to look deeply into it, Harry had Dumbledore pushing him.
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Jul 30 2005 08:19am

Ulic |retired|
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 Ulic |retired|

Regulus Black

That would easily explain why there was a mysterious locket in the house of the Black Family

Bail, please don't read the books in Dutch. They are 10 times better in English. After all, they're written in English and you'll miss 80 % of the subtle word use if you don't read it the proper way (in English ;))
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Jul 30 2005 05:50am

Dicemaster
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 Dicemaster

a friend of mine thought it was a black, can't remember the name he said...i think "remus" but i'm not sure on that. He said that at a certain spot in "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," towards the beginning when they are in the Black household, harry, ron, and heromine found a heavy locket, that they couldn't open by anymeans. This leads me to believe that the locket is either at the Black household, or was stolen by Mundungus and sold
any one agree/disagree?
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Jul 30 2005 05:22am

Raider
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 Raider

Anyone have any thoughts on who R.A.B. is? Been driving me mad :)
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Jul 30 2005 04:50am

Dicemaster
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 Dicemaster

yes in english they are
Harry potter and the sorcers stone
Harry potter and the chamber of secrets
harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban
harry potter and the goblet of fire
harry potter and the order of the phoenix
harry potter and the half blood prince
harry potter and a book i really want to read, but won't come out for like 2 years:(
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Jul 30 2005 12:30am

Jacen Aratan
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The Chamber of Secrets, I believe.

Jul 29 2005 10:26pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

about to start in the second book "Harry Potter and the Secret Chamber" or whatever it is in English :P
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Jul 29 2005 01:11am

Dicemaster
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 Dicemaster

sorry, i didn't mean to come off as clearly stating your wrong, i was just saying what i thought
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Jul 28 2005 11:55pm

solitude
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 solitude

always possible that im wrong...i guess we'll see in book 7.
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Jul 28 2005 11:44pm

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read it carefully. draco's task was to kill dumbledore. snape makes unbreakable charm. draco unable to kill dumbledore after talk. snape has to do the job himself or die due to the charm.


yes, he would die. But more then completeing it, he vowed to help malfoy complete it. If he had been truly trying to follow the vow, he would have gone up there and talked to malfoy for a second, before killing dumbledore, he didn't even try to talk malfoy into it, he just did the task himself.
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Jul 28 2005 11:36pm

Darth Sirius
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Agreed. You will hear no more from me :)
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Jul 28 2005 11:33pm

Grycen
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Yeah, I suppose those theories could all be right. But discussing them just makes me more impatient for book 7!
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Jul 28 2005 11:24pm

Darth Sirius
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 Darth Sirius

I'm with you. I believe there was an arrangement between Dumbledore and Snape. Snape figured out Malfoy's mission and discussed with Dumbledore. Dumbledore asked Snape to complete Malfoy's mission because Dumbledore didn't want Malfoy to become a killer (he also knew that Malfoy would not be able to go through with it). Also, with Malfoy failing his mission, Snape would have to complete it because he made the unbreakable vow with Malfoy's mom. Rather than allowing harm to Malfoy or Snape, Dumbledore made the sacrifice.

These are just my thoughts. One thing for sure, I can't wait for book 7.
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Jul 28 2005 11:13pm

solitude
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read it carefully. draco's task was to kill dumbledore. snape makes unbreakable charm. draco unable to kill dumbledore after talk. snape has to do the job himself or die due to the charm.
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Jul 28 2005 11:12pm

Kainz00r
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That's sounds like a good theory actually, I would agree with it.
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