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US DRAW IS HERE EURO DRAW IS HERE There must be a JA member to referee the match. The WINNER SHOULD POST THE RESULT IN THIS THREAD in this format PLAYER A 4 PLAYER B 1 REF: PLAYER C Any comments RESULTS PAGE -Preliminary round: Best of 5 3 NF 2 FF: From Sunday 27th November @ 2:00 GMT to Tuesday 29th @ 23:59 GMT [b] EDIT it said the 30th in error The deadline is not fixed, as long as you get the first round proper duel completed in time. You can duell back to back if you like and can arrange to meet your opponents. -First Round: Best of 5 3NF 2 FF :Sunday 27th November @ 2:00 GMT to Saturday December 3 @ 23:59 pm GMT 0 32 Players - Second Round : Best of 5 3NF 2 FF: Sunday December 4 @ 12:00 am GMT 0 (0:00) to Wednesday December 7 @ 11:59 pm GMT 0 16 Players -Third Round: Best of 7 4NF 3FF : From Thursday December 8 @ 12:00 am GMT 0 (0:00) to Saturday December 10 @ 11:59 pm GMT 0 8 Players -Fourth RoundRegional Final: Best of 7 FORMAT: 2 NF 2FF 2 NF 1 FF: From Sunday December 11 @ 12:00 am GMT 0 (0:00) to Wednesday December 14 @ 11:59 pm GMT 4 Players Final: Best of 9 3 FORMAT = 2 NF 2 FF 2 NF 2 FF 1 NF: From Thursday December 15 @ 12:00 am GMT 0 (0:00) to Sunday December 18 @ 11:59 pm GMT 2 Players FOR THE FINAL: IF THE FINALISTS CAN PLEASE GIVE ME NOTICE OF WHEN THE FINAL WILL BE I WOULD LIKE TO ABLE TO GET A JAM+ TO REFEREE  .Every Match MUST take place on an official JA server. ALL NF deuls to be completed first Followed by FF Please contact your opponents and arrange a time as soon as the draw is made. If you cannot get in touch with your opponent post below, If a match doesn’t take place within the time limit and we see no posts, both participants will be eliminated from the tournament. PRIZES WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT A LATER DATE. MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU ALL PREVIOUS Thanksgiving IT Finals Final 2004 Sfire v Squibit This is a movie I made you can watch using any medi player WARNING 43Mb and the file name says 2003 TiT3 Final 2003 D@RtHM@UL v YingYang Four files in this zip extract to demos this was a JK2 match btw _______________ *Bro to Vaxxla,Padawan of FiZZandOdan-Wei Part of the mighty Belouve Dynasty-Knight of Nippledom.Twin of Selphestal!**Proud Master to Kaelis and Acura Friend to anyone who would call me the same . Pic by the amazing Majno (merry) This post was edited by Roan Belouve on Dec 09 2005 01:11am. |
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KEEP THEM DEMOS COMING PEOPLE!!!!! IF YOU REF YOU CAN DEMO TOO OR JUST ASK SOMEONE I WILL TRY AND MAKE A HIGHLIGHT REEL IF THERE'S NO DEMO OF YOUR MATCH YOU WON'T BE IN IT IF YOU NEED SOMEONE TO PUT THE FILES GIVE ME A SHOUT I'm off to check I still have Fraps
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Roan Belouve - Retired 
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Due to these rules not being adhered to the Ref now must be a JAK+ for all Future Matches I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO POST THIS STATEMENT BUT HERE GOES I AND THE ACADEMY DON'T LIKE EXPLIOTS AND I WOULD HOPE NO ONE WOULD TARNISH THE GOOD NAME OF THIS TOURNAMNET BY USING THEM If people want to speak to me because they feel they have used these within the tourney to gain an unfair advantage please do so and I will act accordingly. FINALLY PLEASE ENSURE DEMOS ARE TAKEN FOR EVERYMATCH NOW _______________ *Bro to Vaxxla,Padawan of FiZZandOdan-Wei Part of the mighty Belouve Dynasty-Knight of Nippledom.Twin of Selphestal!**Proud Master to Kaelis and Acura Friend to anyone who would call me the same . Pic by the amazing Majno (merry)
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Eica - Student 
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Leaving all the exploit talk aside for a moment, wouldn't it be best to post the result in the results thread masta? _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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SaZ - Student 
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as far as i know... final match should have got a jak+ referee. that means that if he/she didnt spot any exploit/bug or whatever... its all clean  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Dec 14 2005 01:29pm. |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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If anyones still interested, heres the demo of the 7-0 win against avalon from the rematch: clickeh. >_> _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Wolfwood - Student 
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A paladin once tried to roll on a bow that I wanted for my hunter... they can't even use bows! slackers them paladins if you ask me  _______________ ~ Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead ~ This comment was edited by Wolfwood on Dec 14 2005 09:04am. |
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Furi0us - Student 
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i own all noobs gg _______________ You are not your f***ing system specs. You are not your uptime stats, your script file, or your oversized desktop screencap. You are not your broadband connection. You are not your f***ing post count. |
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Sauce - =^.^= 
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alololol. ppl can argue until they're blue in the face and other regions of their bodies about what constitutes an exploit and what is legitimate and still nothing will ever get resolved. it hasn't before in the many other threads about 'sploits or threads that have degernerate into ones about sploits. so y would it start now? have we changed the ways we debate about the whole thing? it's not a sploit! it is! it's not a sploit! it is! it's all pointless. if you wanna waste ur time, don't burst a vein in ur head doing it; unless u like arguing (cough...jk13...cough...tallepyon). have fun with ur friends! waste time semi-quasi-constructively!!! And even if you do come up with something good to prove ur pt, now wut? it's a sploit! sploits do more dmg!!! now that's unheard of. the dmg is unnatural!!! so is donald trump's comb-over. This is a clean technique!!! that's really nice. i guess when it all boils down to it. it's just easy to split the sides: exploiters and non-exploters. my interpretation of the twisted logic behind it all is...bear (ahaha in wow, tallepyon has a pet bear named "motrec jr." with me:1)exploiters like the feeling of superiority when they beat the living crap out of something with one hit. 2)clean fighters like the feeling of superiority/satisfaction when they win/lose with "clean" techniques. it's pretty simple...cuz i thought of it... fact is ppl will dislike ppl or things they don't agree with! shocker... that's right! i don't like it when a pally outrolls me for a piece of gear that i need more. i mean, that's total bull. i can't heal. i can't do spells and buffs. i don't get a special mount. i don't get coupons to macdona...it's just totally unfair and now...now...the pally takes my stuff. |
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Tido - Student 
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Go to bed, JJ! |
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Sir, I dispute your previous statements! I demand that you take them back immediately. How dare you utter such filth? My ears are not garbage cans, sir! Have at you! |
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Gil-Galad - Student 
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I tried to stay out of this as much as possible, but its something I feel very strongly about, as do a lot of people. Marmite rules and anyone who says otherwise is just a fool. And probably wears a silly hat. See what I did there? I tried to make you think I was going to moan about sploits, then I talked about marmite! zomg im cool. _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life This comment was edited by Gil-Galad on Dec 14 2005 03:10am. |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Lets hope the upcoming article sorts this out I don't want to be the last man standing this way. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Let's also agree that marmite is filthy and the people who make it should be shot. <3 |
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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Ok guys lets not turn this into an exploits vs extensions post, lets just congratulate the competitors for a job well done and await the final of the US draw. Im sure there will be plenty of discussion when the article comes out. And Tido please don't drop out, there is nothing wrong with the way you duel. _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. This comment was edited by Jade Jedi on Dec 14 2005 02:57am. |
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JP - Academy Pimp 
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For the record, have extention on your swings in a integral part of red stance dueling, one of the 1st things i taunt my padawans was extentions and how to use them efficiatly, ask people to fight with out aiming is like asking some to play battlefield 2 or Counter strike with no crosshair or gun on the screen for that matter. It's utterly pointless, I've just seen some of the best fighters in the JA drop out due to "exploits" which is total bs, i rarely post round here cause im not very active, but i have been followin up on the tourney cuase i was there at the 1st one, and I had my money on Tido winning it...anyways, if you think extentions and aiming your saber is exploint your batshit retarded, cause its a valid tactic like most parts of the game, it doesnt cash in on collisions or anything like that, it just is being percise, so have people drop if u will but you wont see the true winner of this tounrey (or see him go through the best to win) meh. /me pimp slaps everyone _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" This comment was edited by JP on Dec 14 2005 02:14am. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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An article is on it's way. Don't expect to agree with everything that's in it though. But I assure you, it will all be fact. - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect |
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Kainz00r - Jedi Knight 
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Totally hijacked. _______________ Fervent supporter of duelling - leave a message if you would like to battle! Married to Masta. |
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*steals it's wings!* ...*then kills a few kittens*  |
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Kainz00r - Jedi Knight
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Quote: Go worry about like, global warming or the homeless or poverty or something actually worth bothering yourself about though omg. <3 Pff, go back to killing kittens instead of trying to down my discussion before it lifts off! :p jk btw, to clarify. _______________ Fervent supporter of duelling - leave a message if you would like to battle! Married to Masta. |
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Go worry about like, global warming or the homeless or poverty or something actually worth bothering yourself about though omg. <3 |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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ok first congratulations to both Avalon and Masta, they both have been very good sportsmen in all this whatever the result. Its a shame the tourney is ending this way though seems we don't have a winner of the Euro now? =| _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Kainz00r - Jedi Knight 
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Quote: This was not a request! Chill out!!!  I am chilled. I'm just trying to discuss things further about this issue, which I feel ready needs talked about here. No worries. <3 _______________ Fervent supporter of duelling - leave a message if you would like to battle! Married to Masta. |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Just like Tido and Avalon, i myself am guilty of aiming my saber for the opponent and trying to keep it within his body for the duration of my swing. I have been doing this in all of my matches and therefore have repeatedly violated the rules of this tourney. For that reason, i believe that i dont deserve to advance any further and will ultimately withdraw myself as well. My condolences and respect to Roan who put a lot of effort into this event which sadly ended up this way. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Quote: Let the kids just play how they want. Kittens only die when you masturbate, not exploit. Psh. Get over it, boys and girls. This was not a request! Chill out!!! |
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Kainz00r - Jedi Knight
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I must confess, I am also one of these frowned uponed, as you label them, exploiters. However, let me discuss a few things about my fighting style: After playing jk3 for close to 2 years now, i've had a fair bit of experience with the saber system. I think it's safe to say I understand a fair bit of actual saber combat from experience, rather than just my opinion on how things should work. Beginning with 'extensions': This is just aim. If you want to hit people in a duel with red, you just don't focus them on the middle of your screen, you manipulate your player model so as your swing has a higher probability of hitting them. A method of doing this is to turn your mouse so as you aim the saber at them. Would you consider aim to be vital in a fight? I think I would. I prefer to keep yellow stance spammers at bay, rather than to rush me right after my swing because I lacked the efficiency of aim. It's speed vs power, and i'll have to use all I have to keep him away, and I will. Please note that I do not poke these swings, which I think is safe to say is a bit over the top, as we all know and have discussed before. Delays. Yet again another essential aspect of red and yellow stance. Standing still with red can only do so much, and will soon make you a very predictable opponent, and therefore not very challenging at all. It is in consequence of this we require further measures to vary our red swing timings and such, to confuse our opponents, in the hope that eventually we can catch them off footing and land a hit. These delays are more noticeable in a red stance style, but can also be incorporated into some yellow stance combo's for added variety. It also helps to give the illusion that your combo has ended, and when they go in for the attack, you unleash the delay which has the power of a chained swing, and hits unexpectedly fast, due to the delay aspect. 'Drift swings' are just another variation of delays, with the added velocity boost from jumps if done right. So yeah, gaining a boost from your jumps also helps to gain an advantage. This technique allows you to unleash faster 'aerials', hence hitting the opponent faster, increasing the efficient of your aerial attacks. A favourite of mine is to do a hop forwards, then do a right swing on red stance as I land, and hop forward again at my opponent whilst holding crouch. The result is a very fast right swing aerial, which usually has a 'hit and run' effect, particularly useful against hard to hit staffers etc whom are more aquainted with the more common red styles. And now, I can't really think of what else some members of the JA have branded as exploits, but here's my summary on the deal. Basically, the majority of the techniques some members of this community have branded exploits, I cannot share the opinion with. It is infact, the new level of multiplayer gameplay. That's how it is outside the walls of this place. I do admit there are some blatant exploits as poking, but some of the stuff mentioned here is just ridiculous, and would only restrict fighters whom abide by them. At the rate things are going... the people being disqualified from this tournament might be the only ones who can stand their own ground in this game vs the majority of opponents, not just the ones who play by their rules. _______________ Fervent supporter of duelling - leave a message if you would like to battle! Married to Masta. This comment was edited by Kainz00r on Dec 14 2005 01:07am. |
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R2D2 - Staff
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Aww, I was working on my anti-Tido tactics. Would have been a good match in your favor Tido. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Let the kids just play how they want. Kittens only die when you masturbate, not exploit. Psh. Get over it, boys and girls. |
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