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Virtue - Jedi Council  |
Activity is waning in some or alot of areas. This depends of course on whereabouts you live, your time zone etc. But generally, people have been saying recently that whenever they come online, the Servers are pretty much empty. So I ask you this: What would you like to see around here that could help beef up activity in the JA? Please be detailed, I don't expect you to have to write essays or anything, but please don't just post saying stuff like "We need more events!" or "We should have some scheduled fun sessions!" Tell us exactly what it is you'd like to see here. Or things that you think would help boost activity on the servers. So... Go!  - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect This post was edited by Virtue on Mar 20 2006 01:22pm. |
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monkai - Student |
Quote: Sorry Wicek, basejka+ isn't what the JA is looking for. It won't have multiple levels of admin - just a better rcon. It won't have any displinary commands at all. We're not trying to reinvent the wheel: if a server admin needs an admin system that reflects ranks and offers a lot of server control features, there is a handful of mods out there already fulfilling this. Basejka+ is being designed to add just a little to what basejka teams already want. The Academy needs the mod that was designed for it - JAR/JAE. C1 and Orion both have put in a ton of effort into that thing and really made some great stuff. However, I do agree: the playability of Academy servers does hurt activity. If the JA can resolve this, it will increase activity on the servers quite a bit I'm sure. Otherwise people just don't really enjoy playing there. It's quite possible the actual mod has nothing to do with it. We don't know :x. On that note, Virtue would you be willing to entertain the idea of running a basejka server *temporarily* on Hux's box just for a little cross-testing? You don't have to give anyone rcon for it, maybe just g_EnableVoting 1. Throw an Academy password on it and if it gets out of hand just shut it down. I just want to see how base plays on that box. i remeber someone saying that the JA isn't a DEMOCRACY?! (@ voting suggestion) This comment was edited by monkai on Jun 15 2006 10:59pm. |
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Everon - Student - The winner!!! 
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Wheeee, Base ftw . |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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Sure, we're not using the projects server right now, so I'll make that a base server temporarily for you to have a look at. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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Tido - Student 
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Sorry Wicek, basejka+ isn't what the JA is looking for. It won't have multiple levels of admin - just a better rcon. It won't have any displinary commands at all. We're not trying to reinvent the wheel: if a server admin needs an admin system that reflects ranks and offers a lot of server control features, there is a handful of mods out there already fulfilling this. Basejka+ is being designed to add just a little to what basejka teams already want. The Academy needs the mod that was designed for it - JAR/JAE. C1 and Orion both have put in a ton of effort into that thing and really made some great stuff. However, I do agree: the playability of Academy servers does hurt activity. If the JA can resolve this, it will increase activity on the servers quite a bit I'm sure. Otherwise people just don't really enjoy playing there. It's quite possible the actual mod has nothing to do with it. We don't know :x. On that note, Virtue would you be willing to entertain the idea of running a basejka server *temporarily* on Hux's box just for a little cross-testing? You don't have to give anyone rcon for it, maybe just g_EnableVoting 1. Throw an Academy password on it and if it gets out of hand just shut it down. I just want to see how base plays on that box. This comment was edited by Tido on Jun 13 2006 02:55pm. |
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Wicek - Nugget 
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Quote: Actually c1 made the mod.. unless I'm mistaken Yup, sorry  Quote: Personally, I'd like to do basejka - but alas, if we did base, we'd have absolutely no admin whatsoever barring Rcon, so our Knights and Trainers wouldn't be able to administrate the Servers (and no, we're not going to be handing out rcon  ) Let's just wait for this one This comment was edited by Wicek on Jun 13 2006 09:19am. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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Personally, I'd like to do basejka - but alas, if we did base, we'd have absolutely no admin whatsoever barring Rcon, so our Knights and Trainers wouldn't be able to administrate the Servers (and no, we're not going to be handing out rcon ) - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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Pink_Mintaka - Student 
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Quote: What keeps me away from JA servers is the mod. I would change it. I know Orion spent many hours to make it and im not like - JAE SUX!!!!. It have very cool and helpful features for admins and such, but saber combat is far from good. (random damage etc.) We could use basejk. After some time people would get used to it. Eg. basejk server, gametype - ffa. How they duel? Come to opponent and crouch/bow, ignite saber. And they dont have any problems with it. Also Tido is working on 'basejk+' which could be future mod of JA servers. About the Knight thingy. Nah, i don't think that JA needs more Knights. JA need more students. You said - compared to 10000 students. Hmm.. many of them never visited the site second time after singup. That's all =P Actually c1 made the mod.. unless I'm mistaken And I think the idea for more knights is a good one if you ask me. It could beef up the activity on the servers quite a bit. And as we all know, your much more likely to get on a server with someone/people on there. This comment was edited by Pink_Mintaka on Jun 11 2006 07:56pm. |
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Wicek - Nugget 
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What keeps me away from JA servers is the mod. I would change it. I know C1 spent many hours to make it and im not like - JAE SUX!!!!. It have very cool and helpful features for admins and such, but saber combat is far from good. (random damage etc.) We could use basejk. After some time people would get used to it. Eg. basejk server, gametype - ffa. How they duel? Come to opponent and crouch/bow, ignite saber. And they dont have any problems with it. Also Tido is working on 'basejk+' which could be future mod of JA servers. About the Knight thingy. Nah, i don't think that JA needs more Knights. JA need more students. You said - compared to 10000 students. Hmm.. many of them never visited the site second time after singup. That's all =P This comment was edited by Wicek on Jun 13 2006 09:15am. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: I have been thinking along with somebodies this unacitivity of JA thing....and we have made conclusion... More knights, what we have now about 7-8 knights compared it to 10000 students ...So more knights...I am sure there is allready too many players who have earned Knight title oh well I don't decide that  we need more new faces who are interested in the game for more than a week. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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Quote: I have been thinking along with somebodies this unacitivity of JA thing....and we have made conclusion... More knights, what we have now about 7-8 knights compared it to 10000 students ...So more knights...I am sure there is allready too many players who have earned Knight title oh well I don't decide that I think the loss of interest is from people getting bored with the game. Just my opinion though. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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I have been thinking along with somebodies this unacitivity of JA thing....and we have made conclusion... More knights, what we have now about 7-8 knights compared it to 10000 students ...So more knights...I am sure there is allready too many players who have earned Knight title oh well I don't decide that _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Ian Jandos - Student 
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Please address this Thx -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives |
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LoneWolf_ Mintaka - Student 
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I haven't been around lately thats for sure, but if you would ask me here are a few suggestions: 1. Find some mods to run that everyone is in agreement on. Then have schedule times when the server is running that particular mod. Whether it be 1 week or 2 work out the details. 2. *A harder thing to do in terms of setting it up and getting it going* Have people get together to make little clips of movie footage or a full fledge movie for that fact. Or just a spoof etc funny movie clips. This builds on the movie aspect to have several different categories etc of wars, jedi vs sith etc _______________ Honor, still counts for something. Loyalty, is hard to come by. Integrity, is something to strive for. |
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xAnAtOs - Student |
Point taken Deqlyn; overextending the ja's borders may also cause it to collapse. In my opinion the ja is going nowhere anyway so the prospect of expanding horizons will give people something to do and challenge themselves to update existing skills / utilise new ones for a variety of games. I understand that this is a revolutionary move in itself but it's well worth the effort if we can get things rolling. It's better than sitting around idly as the ja falls apart as it is doing so currently. To answer some of your questions: Teaching does not necessarily have to become a part of the new academy, it's all about moving forward to different games and increasing activity as well as competition. If you do, however, insist upon instructors then I'm sure there will be plenty of help to be found in the various games. Instructors can always be found through their obvious displays of skill (and hopefully their willingness to pass on these skills). As for the council, I very much doubt that they would have to change considering only one member of the current 5 plays jka, while only one other is active at all - their skills being outdated is the least of our problems, same applies for their willingness to take on the responsbility. Will the community follow? Who knows. As for the name, I've already said that it's time to become TA, not TJA. In any case I don't feel that the name we choose to take would be a problem. Organisation will be the main concern and will definitely eat away a huge portion of time for those involved. You're right about one thing for sure though: no-one will listen. The fact is that things do not get done around here. From promotions that never even happen anymore (yes I understand that there is really no need for these owing to lack of activity) to the secret project that everyone's been hearing about for at least a year but which has born no fruit - things don't happen. Even the numerous suggestions for all the things we could be doing to servers eg. rotating maps, using old maps to bring back nostalgia, playing different gametypes, settings, mods, etc - none of these happen. I'm not saying at all that my suggestions should be implemented, but something has to be done. I'm only making these suggestions out of concern for the community I've spent so much time with; I'd hate to see it burn out without a fight. In the end it's up to you guys and the council. Do what you'd like with the ja. Make it an oustanding community for years to come or allow it to remain on the brink of extinction - one day it's finally going to die. It won't survive unless we reignite the sparks of its glory days by venturing into the newer games and expanding our community. The ball is in everyones court. I'm out of this discussion though, hope you guys find something for which this community will be worth keeping alive. _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade
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<Henkes> nebody feeling like abusing me with a lightsaber?|+Smilykrazy grabs Gradius, beats the living CRAP out of him, then throws him into a huge vat of ACID This comment was edited by xAnAtOs on May 16 2006 12:26pm. |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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Quote: Perhaps we should have more maps and thus more variety? Maybe have a modified map for the classes server, etc? Actually, I think that could be a good idea. It'll need quite some effort building a series of JA maps, but once finished, the result sounds good to me. Hopping servers will be like 'walking' through the Academy. One server has the default JA map, a classes server uses a specially designed classes map and another server is designed solely for movement training. Maybe this will help FPS as well, because the maps will be smaller, but I dont know about that to be honest. Im just not 100 per cent sure if it'd be the most practical thing to do, but I like the idea anyway. Remind me to give you a free donut next time you come to McDonalds, Mikeh _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. This comment was edited by Dash Starlight on May 16 2006 07:30am. |
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Quote: tallepyon likes weiners. QFE. |
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Sauce - =^.^= 
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tallepyon likes weiners. |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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I would still like to see pizza parties implemented...get a move on it! |
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Quote: When you've played the Jedi Knight series for so long, it does get a little boring, to be honest. It's still fun to play, but you've seen the theme and heard the music so many times, that it is annoying in some way. That's why I downloaded a couple of JK3 mods to change some of that. I guess it's hard to stick with the exact same thing for too long.  Perhaps we should have more maps and thus more variety? Maybe have a modified map for the classes server, etc? I don't know, basically give the servers different identity. Or even just have a couple of extra maps, with the same practical use as Virtue's Academy series of maps. Hell, maybe older versions? Even the betas? Nostalgia is always cool. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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When you've played the Jedi Knight series for so long, it does get a little boring, to be honest. It's still fun to play, but you've seen the theme and heard the music so many times, that it is annoying in some way. That's why I downloaded a couple of JK3 mods to change some of that. I guess it's hard to stick with the exact same thing for too long. |
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Vision - Jedi Knight 
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Yeah the servers are more active again and that's good. I find the system how The Academy works great and don't think there should be any changes apart from some new competitions (tournaments and stuff) and some new classes. Personally JK3 isn't getting boring, and new stuff is always attractive and fun. This comment was edited by Vision on May 15 2006 12:43pm. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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Actually, I've noticed the servers having more activity in the last two weeks... |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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I will never stop playing this Too much history, I don't mean in JA.net but other places^^ And haven't you learnt anything from this game, like mapping,skinning, modelling duelling, website editing...JK serie never die!!!!! Never ever, Never ever never... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on May 15 2006 01:46am. |
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Balian - Ex-Student |
lol xan no one is listening to you, or choosing to ignore you. Your right, I dont see the activity boosting at all and your suggestion of opening horizons is awesome but the rejection can be due to: -with new games and various masteries who's to teach -who will the council be? will they be outdated because of there lack of game knowledge? -should we stick to our knitting? -will the community follow? -can a star wars community named "thejediacademy" keep its name of integrity without people saying, WTF jedis in WW2?(change name issue, Organizational Identity) -do those in charge want to take on that large of a responsibility -do they have the financing? Theres alot of issue with opening it up really. Take a JAC's job now of monitoring everything(which is easy cause inactivity) then say we implement 3-4 games. THats three times the members applying 3 servers 3 different programs etc... It may be a bit more than any 5 guys with full time jobs can chew. There is the possibilty to take on one game at a time but as i said, whos gonna run it, then you have to implement the new name. Basically my point, theres no easy way to do it. You either fail at keeping the academy going because JKA dies, or you fail by overextending yourself in an area where the book has to be rewritten? So which do you choose? If you dont follow me just ask for further explanation. _______________ What man is a man who does not make the world better. This comment was edited by Balian on May 14 2006 11:34pm. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Yeah. Like I said, I am not that guy who makes decissions I don't wait that all will change dramatically because of my suggestions or even change anything. I want just bring my ideas up, not even sure will these ideas work.  I respect allready that what the creators of JA have done and if they asking opinions or ideas for any problems, situations....etc that is the least what I can do... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on May 14 2006 08:09pm. |
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