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Jan 28 2009 06:53am

Xorb
 - Student
Xorb
So, I've been playing JKA here for about a month now but I haven't seen anyone playing CTF on the academy server. I'm guessing most of you played this to death over the last 5 years. I'd really like to give it a try though. You know, a bit of goal oriented fun, team camaraderie, running around with a saber and a flag . . . good times.

If there is anyone out there that is interested in having a game, please post here along with your time zone and maybe even a preferred day/time.

Thanks,
Xorb

BTW, I have accidentally become the winner?!?!?!? :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
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Feb 09 2009 06:55pm

Va'kion
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 Va'kion

ps. I love CTF, but I'll only be able to play it in the summer, I hope there will be tourneys then.:)

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Feb 09 2009 06:54pm

Va'kion
 - Student
 Va'kion

It's actually farely easy to kill Jedi/Sith if you know the capabilities of each gun and when to use them. Just my opinion.

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Feb 02 2009 05:25pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

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And pull/push > gunner


Exactly why I wont join if there is more than 1 jedi/sith, they have to much of an advantage. Lol.


Why people always look faults from the game or something... When It can also be them ?


I resent that, im an awesome gunner. LOL! Basically Maher, when your a gunner and the Jedi/Sith comes and pushes you over or pulls your gun out of your hand, it removes alot of the "fun element" out of the game. But that is my personally opinion, and I am only a lowly gunner, who has not had the benefit of an experienced MBII saber user in training me. I'm sure there are people out there who love getting bullied by Jedi's. :P
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This comment was edited by Cuthalion on Feb 02 2009 05:25pm.

Feb 02 2009 05:18pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

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And pull/push > gunner


Exactly why I wont join if there is more than 1 jedi/sith, they have to much of an advantage. Lol.


Why people always look faults from the game or something... When It can also be them ?
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Feb 02 2009 10:12am

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

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And pull/push > gunner


Exactly why I wont join if there is more than 1 jedi/sith, they have to much of an advantage. Lol.
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This comment was edited by Cuthalion on Feb 02 2009 10:13am.

Feb 01 2009 06:39pm

Maher
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 Maher

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Saber dueling was a bit dull after the novelty wore off tbh. M-blocking > everything.


Not for long time... :)



If you can mblock properly, the fights last 1 or two swings. one if you know the opponent, and will usually open with the same combo. And pull/push > gunner


Good luck then and may the force be with you... :D
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Feb 01 2009 06:25pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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Saber dueling was a bit dull after the novelty wore off tbh. M-blocking > everything.


Not for long time... :)



If you can mblock properly, the fights last 1 or two swings. one if you know the opponent, and will usually open with the same combo. And pull/push > gunner
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Feb 01 2009 05:45pm

Maher
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 Maher

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But yeah you always kill your enemy instantly... So It isn't a bug...


i meant instantly as in opponent fails to block that one while blocking.


yeah that's usually opponent's fault, because he just got pwnd... :D I do fail at blocking also... But I haven't seen people killing me with bugs... Well except enviromental bugs in maps... :)

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other than that its impossible for newcomer to understand most of the game. i mean parrying, mblock etc. the only way to understand that would be too to ask someone or read in forums. and even then - you wouldnt understand that unless someone shows you.


That's why such a great place like MBU exists! :D
Also I brang this subject up due to Kenny blame that It is an easy mod to play...
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 05:46pm.

Feb 01 2009 05:08pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

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But yeah you always kill your enemy instantly... So It isn't a bug...


i meant instantly as in opponent fails to block that one while blocking.

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But I do have a idea :)


because you played a lot.

the only obvious rule in mb2 is the one you said - walking = less bp usage.

other than that its impossible for newcomer to understand most of the game. i mean parrying, mblock etc. the only way to understand that would be too to ask someone or read in forums. and even then - you wouldnt understand that unless someone shows you.


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Feb 01 2009 05:01pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

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you have no idea how much bp drain your swings do and how the hell you can sometimes swing and kill enemy instantly.


But I do have a idea :)

It is just that.... you are pointing such a general situation at MBII that I don't know exactly what you are meaning ? :)

But yeah you always kill your enemy instantly... So It isn't a bug... and swingblock is a counter attack for Manual-Block, Swingblocking drains less opponent's bp... Manual-Block's mention is to disarm the opponent :)

There are also big difference between running and walking... jumping and staying on ground... but yeah... I can always keep my BP up by parries :)

and I usually just wait that my opponent has spammed his BP on me...

well that's just one way... and there's more! :)
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 05:02pm.

Feb 01 2009 02:09pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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omg! Cuthalion... Everybody are just whining about saber system.... Because they don't understand it :D and getting pwnd!


well there you go - a flaw. what flaw you ask? its not really clear how that system works. those things i read in forums like 'swingblocking' sound like some kind of bugs to me. you have no idea how much bp drain your swings do and how the hell you can sometimes swing and kill enemy instantly.
lets say with backdiagonal. manuals dont really help if the system itself isnt clear.
saber system is not as complex as OJP one, but still.
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Feb 01 2009 01:59pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

Ok I add the servers to me HLSW. It is good to see there is activity on them as well :) But I need the maps. How do I go about finding them? JK3files.com?

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Jan 31 2009 11:35pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

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MB2 is awesome.... For gunners. The sabering system is in my humble opinion is Rubbish.


omg! Cuthalion... Everybody are just whining about saber system.... Because they don't understand it :D and getting pwnd!

This is fact...

Those who understands it... I haven't seen anybody of them whining about it :)

Also gunner vs jedi matches are more balanced nowadays.

Jedi are being nerfed version by version... and you are saying this... ?

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I know that that statement will be contested, but in MB2 and especially now RC3 the Jedi's have far to much of an advantage.


:confused:

Do you remember RC1 or any Beta Versions ?

CTF is indeed fun and JKAbase is old fun and MBII is precise fun... All different, all enjoyable....
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Jan 31 2009 10:02pm

Mister Clutch
 - Student
 Mister Clutch

For those who are intrested here is some information about how we CTF puggers play CTF:

Firstly, what is a PUG?

PUG stands for Pick Up Game. As the name says, it's about players being picked to play in a game.

PUG's take place on passworded servers (in order to avoid dealing with players unaware of the PUG rules and procedures). The usual password is "ctfpug".

All the players on the server go to spectator mode. Then 2 players (usually of an equal level) get in game, one for the blue team and one for the red one : they are the team's captains.

They meet at the map's midfield (CTF maps are symetrics) and have a pistol duel. The winner of this duel, wins the right to pick first. He picks any player present on the server.

After that, it is the other captain's turn to pick. The captains pick alternatively until they reached the number of players they agree on to play the pug (95% of the pugs are played 4v4, unless there's not enough players on the server).

Here's a complete guide how a CTF pug works:
http://www.beyondsuppression.com/jka.php?g=tutorials

Servers:
SPUG 208.100.38.218:29070 - ctfpug (Password)
JOC PUG 208.43.15.204:29070 - jocpug (Password)
bS 195.149.21.41:29070 - ctfpug (Password)
NYPUG 208.122.58.7:29070 - ctfpug (Password)
JA + official server - 69.31.15.215:29071

The maps you need:
http://www.beyondsuppression.com/tritoch.php?g=maps

Jan 31 2009 08:17pm

Fullmetal D'Kana
 - Jedi Instructor
 Fullmetal D'Kana

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ctf is for noobs lolol


Totally, that's why Kenny was good at that game! :D
QFE

I challenge all three of you for a 1vs1 CTF full force/full guns.

Accept/Decline

Ps: I know u won't :P!


I accept.


On a different note, CTF is a "different" gametype than most here are used to. We are creatures of habit and tend to stick to what we know. As a result, it is very hard to find enough people for an interesting CTF game on the privatized CTF server. I wouldn't mind going on an outing with you to public ctf servers so you can get your fix with academy pals, but I see it as pretty difficult to get one going with just the current member base here.

Hopefully, when real life releases the strangle hold it has on me, I can resume my class and that will build a bigger interest, but until then, like I said, I have no problem joining you on public servers. :)


Oh ya, *poof*, I'm FullMetal.
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Jan 30 2009 01:20pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

MB2 is awesome.... For gunners. The sabering system is in my humble opinion is Rubbish., the only funny thing is the slaps with can be done. I know that that statement will be contested, but in MB2 and especially now RC3 the Jedi's have far to much of an advantage. I'll always spectate first, if there are more jedi than gunners I wont join. Its simply not fair on the gunners to be pushed and pulled all over the place. Base is much more user friendly from a Jedi perspective. But if you want to improve your aiming skills I seriously suggest joining the MBU. :)

BLOB FTW!
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Jan 29 2009 11:30pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

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Saber dueling was a bit dull after the novelty wore off tbh. M-blocking > everything.


Not for long time... :)


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Jan 29 2009 09:22pm

Piccolo
 - Student
 Piccolo

yeah, whatever he said.

Jan 29 2009 07:36pm

Kainz00r
 - Jedi Knight
 Kainz00r

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ctf is for noobs lolol


Totally, that's why Kenny was good at that game! :D
QFE

I challenge all three of you for a 1vs1 CTF full force/full guns.

Accept/Decline

Ps: I know u won't :P!


Too ez no point in the match tbqh

Perhaps in a few years you'll be ready to issue such challenges, young grasshoppa
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Jan 29 2009 05:55pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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I never really liked MB2 to much, mainly because it wasen't challenging enough for me (thinking wise)


umm... ok... Well I challenge anybody to come visit at MBU's public MBII open mode - server...

If It isn't allready challenging enough... you can always try to beat up a MBU player at MBII lightsaber duelling or even gun vs lightsaber or even gun vs gun :)


Saber dueling was a bit dull after the novelty wore off tbh. M-blocking > everything.
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I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop


Jan 29 2009 05:18pm

Maher
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 Maher

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I never really liked MB2 to much, mainly because it wasen't challenging enough for me (thinking wise)


umm... ok... Well I challenge anybody to come visit at MBU's public MBII open mode - server...

If It isn't allready challenging enough... you can always try to beat up a MBU player at MBII lightsaber duelling or even gun vs lightsaber or even gun vs gun :)
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Jan 29 2009 05:00pm

Xorb
 - Student
 Xorb

Well, seems like so far we have myself and Kain Sol running back and forth with a Flag. From what is mentioned below, seems like 1vs1 isn't unheard of, but surely there are a few more noobs out there that want to give this a try?!?!?!?

Thanks for the detailed info Elysium!
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Jan 29 2009 03:04pm

Mister Clutch
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 Mister Clutch

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ctf is for noobs lolol


Totally, that's why Kenny was good at that game! :D
QFE

I challenge all three of you for a 1vs1 CTF full force/full guns.

Accept/Decline

Ps: I know u won't :P!

This comment was edited by Mister Clutch on Jan 29 2009 03:09pm.

Jan 29 2009 03:02pm

Mister Clutch
 - Student
 Mister Clutch

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Xorb... Basically CTF (eventhought MBII pwns CTF totally in this matter) is a lot of fun... indeed...

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Base D(efence) - A player with the job to keep his teams flag carrier alive. Clearing the base from camping offence players of the other team and the other teams chase D player.
Chase D(efence) - Its the chase's d job to hunt down the enemy flag carrier and return the flag.
Offence - The offence player's job is to steal the flag from the enemy's base and get back to your base and score.


But It is hard to get 8 players to the server... So you wouldn't fully experience the fun of CTF :)


Each his own ;). I never really liked MB2 to much, mainly because it wasen't challenging enough for me (thinking wise). I had a couple of good laughs when I played with my cousin for a month, but soon enough I went back to CTF :P.

It isen't that hard to get a game of 4's going concidering each day our server is filled with 14 from the 16 slots. Heck, alot of the times we are having 4's at bS and 4's at SPUG (bS = Europe/SPUG = America). Which means that we have a pug at each server. Even though as a community, we aren't that big. We make up for our lack in numbers with our activety.

There are differend forms of the modes we play.
We don't always play 4 vs 4.
1vs1 - This basicly a full force/guns FFA.
2vs2 - Normal CTF game where there are two players on each team. On each team there is a chase D and a offence player. During the game people often switch positions in order to keep the other team from scoring.
3vs3- Normal CTF game where there are three players on each team. On each team there are usually a chase D and two offence players. However, this might be changed during game. Like one offence player would play support offence/secondary chase D, etc..
4vs4 The most common playing mode. Two offence players, one chase D and a base D.
5vs5 A game of five usually exist out of a base D, chase D, three offence players or two offence players and a mid (Depends who your playing against). Its basicly harder for the defence to return/kill the enemy flag carriers, mainly because the camping (hidding near the flagstand in order to GRAB THE FLAG if the enemy chase D returns on your teams flagcarrier).

There are some cases of 6's/7's, but these are rare because we prefer to play 4's.

This comment was edited by Mister Clutch on Jan 29 2009 03:05pm.

Jan 29 2009 12:04pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

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ctf is for noobs lolol


Totally, that's why Kenny was good at that game! :D
QFE
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