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JA SP Level: Anyone interested?
Jun 30 2003 01:43am

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
Virtue

Me being me, was having a few silly thoughts this afternoon and came up with an idea to make a Single Player Level based around the Academy.

Got great ideas for the level, although I havn't thought up a story line for it yet.
But basically, I'mma make it so that you play a New Student to the Academy training with a JAT when something terrible happens, blah, blah, blah.

I'm gonna be making loads of new skins for it, including the player skin (Let's face it, playing as Kyle in this scenario would be NO FUN!).
This way, as you make your way through the Academy, you will meet and interact with several existing Academy members, like DJ Sith or Luke Skywalker. Even good old Jakey boy. Each member will hopefully be individually voiced.

I'mma try and implement some helpful tips reguarding MP Playing and such, but the level will really just be for fun.

What do you guys think?
Good Idea?

If so, tell me -

What would you like to see in the level?
What kind of situations shall we put the player through?

And also, any good ideas for a storyline would be great. :D

Let me know what you think.

- Virty. :alliance:
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Academy Architect

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What do you think?

vote results
It's a Great Idea!!! It's a Great Idea!!! [34 votes] [59%]
It WOULD be a great idea, as long as I get to be in it! It WOULD be a great idea, as long as I get to be in it! [20 votes] [34%]
.....................................Meh. .....................................Meh. [1 vote] [2%]
What use could a Single Player Level POSSIBLY be to the Academy? What use could a Single Player Level POSSIBLY be to the Academy? [1 vote] [2%]
Are you INSANE?! GO STAND IN THE CORNER!!! Are you INSANE?! GO STAND IN THE CORNER!!! [2 votes] [3%]

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Jul 06 2003 06:59am

MINDofSIN
 - Student
 MINDofSIN

FaDeD: Are we there yet?

:P
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Jul 06 2003 06:13am

FaDed
 - Student
 FaDed

saturday is gone...do we have a storyline yet?

Jul 05 2003 02:57am

Jello`
 - Student
 Jello`

Have a huge battle outside or something. Like Jedi v Stormies, then have sith arrive :)
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Jul 04 2003 08:24am

FaDed
 - Student
 FaDed

i was thinking that this could be not only a fun map to play, but could also be used as a training map. for example i think that there should be a large section donated to movement. where the player/hero has to maneuver through a series of obstacles and pitfalls. i also think that there should be a large focus on guns. the saber is important, but guns are vital. then when/if you convert the map to MP, students could use these areas for specific training.

Jul 04 2003 01:03am

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
 Virtue

If no one else comes up with any more storylines by Saturday, that's when I'll decide. So you got 2 days guys!!! :D :P

For people who want to be in it, I'm making a Special post for that here on the Academy Discussion Forum, it should be up in a few minutes, so check it out guys! :)

It'd be simple to convert it to MP Jake, All I'd have to do is replace a few entities, the map will still look the same, but I'd have to make it a bit smaller. I'd just cut out some pointless corridoors and key holding rooms. Maybe I'll trash DJ's office while I'm at it. LOL. :P

The X-Wing models are part of JO's models. You can implement them just like you can implement NPCs (Right Click XYZ View, Select misc>misc_model then choose the model you want to put in. (GTK Radient is best for this, as in JK2Radient, you won't see the models untill you compile and test them in game.

One final request:

GO TO THE CASTING THREAD!!! :D :D :D

- Virty. :alliance:
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Academy Architect

Jul 04 2003 12:11am

FaDed
 - Student
 FaDed

virty: how soon are you going to decide on the storyline?

Jul 03 2003 11:35pm

Flash
 - Student
 Flash

Do we get to request being in the level? Cause I wanna be in it!;)

Jul 03 2003 11:33pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

by the way, if you make your map proper ub3r, like well academy accurate. Would it be possible to convert it to multiplayer ? If its really really good, I could see it being the next potential JA map :D, lets get the singleplayer project out the way first :D
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Jul 03 2003 10:24pm

Sniya
 - Student
 Sniya

grr i wrote a good post now then my cpu had to restart.

Well what i said i n short was that the hanger rocked and reminded me of the ep1 hanger and how it would be cool to have a videoed fight between say massidoobie and the top dark jedi like in the actual game between dessan and luke.

Oh and couldnt we get some of the other skinners.modders/level desiners in on this.

i might have a go at at the storyline later.
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Jul 03 2003 09:18pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

w00t! Nice work Virty!

Btw, don't expect that plot from me.... I am a very uncreative boy.

(anyone remember the topic in #jedi-academy;
"<Jacen_Aratan> asking me to come up with an idea is like trying to get it to rain
<Acey_Spadey> yeah, you can always depend on the rain"
? :))

Jul 03 2003 09:04pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

where did u find those x-wing models Virtue?? which map?

it is a 1337 map, till now!!!! wow :D can't wait for it to be published!!!!!!!!!! If you publish it b4 JK3, maybe i won't buy JK3!!! (not so.. i'm kidding; but the map seems gr8!)

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Jul 03 2003 07:52pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

..............

OH MY GOD, Man that is fudging amazing. I'd be happy if the whole thing was JUST that hangar, wow man, that pic is gonna be in my wet dreams for months :P
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Jul 03 2003 07:41pm

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
 Virtue

Righty-Ho.
Here is a glimpse of what is to come.
This is a shot of the Academy's Hangar.

Let me know what you think. :D

http://members.lycos.co.uk/virtueja/academy_hanger.jpg

- Virtue. :alliance:
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Academy Architect

Jul 03 2003 05:01pm

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
 Virtue

Yeah, that's the plan.

I'mma be posting an early production screenshot of the Academy's Hangar soon. I have already started on the map it's coming along nicely. The hanger looks really cool.

- Virtue. :alliance:
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Academy Architect

Jul 03 2003 12:48pm

Iceman - away-
 - Student

I agree

Jul 03 2003 10:21am

Aeth S'kray
 - Retired
 Aeth S'kray

i dont like to see so many guys of us dieing :(

and i say you gotta do some "ordinary day" part. show the academy at its best side before you blow up everything :D
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Jul 03 2003 10:13am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Hmm, I'll post something for ya Virtue, I'm too tired to do it right now, but I'm not very creative so we'll see how it turns out. :)

Jul 03 2003 09:53am

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
 Virtue

Now THAT is more like it cM@D_x!!! :D :D :D

I like that one alot.

I'mma copy and paste that one into my JA folder aswell.

But just to make it fair, I'll wait for a bit and hear some other storylines from other members too.

But I do like that. :) :cool:

- Virty. :alliance:
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Academy Architect

Jul 03 2003 08:42am

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

k.. i modified my prior story so that it takes place in JA ground. Here u go Virtue:

While training with ur master in some JA training room, u (and ur master) sence something dark in the force. Luckily, ur master recognises it; it is his prior padawan, who was extremely powerful and fell to the Dark Side.
All the ppl in the JA senced that as well. The JACs, who knew how powerful that person was, alerted the JA members to evacuate the building. Only the JACs, JATs and JAKs should stay. And they were right to make so many ppl stay! The Dark Jedi had brought a whole army of Reborns (or Shadowtroopers if u like them better) with him.
A huge fight starts (like in AOTC) where all the Reborns have been killed, and only 2 JACs and one JAT had remained alive; DJ, C1 (doobie is on vacations, :P) and ur master. Watching their fight from a window, u happen to see ur master being sabered by the Dark Jedi, as well as the 2 JACs (i said from the beginning that the Dark Jedi was powerful).
You then decide to go in and fight him... U know that only your hatred can destroy him (copyright Darth/Lord Vader :D). You go in and fall to the Dark Side. Your hatred has taken over you.. You then switch from Light Side Force Powers, to Dark Side Force Powers... Then u kick his @$$, and become a Light Siders again!
You r then made Lead Instructor of the JA!!

:D :D :D
--end--
i think this was better than the prior one :P
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Jul 03 2003 05:00am

FaDed
 - Student
 FaDed

thanks for explaining that Virtue :D

Jul 03 2003 12:46am

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
 Virtue

One of the main interesting things about a Mod of this type is the individuality, I won't be making custom skins that resemble what the JA members look like in real life - unless it is their wish for me to do so.
Some of the skins will be easy enough to make anyway, some members may just want a slightly modified version of the Jedi Skin, or the Jedi Trainer skin, which wil be simple to do, they may even want to make the modification to the skin themselvs and send it along to me.
Others may be skinners, or already have a skin made which they can send along to me.
And for the rest, I am more than happy to make you a Custom skin that will look how you want it to look and best resemlble your character.

MP is different from SP, if two or three members wanted to use the same skin, those individual skins will still need to be independantly scripted, Voiced and Configured, so if I'm going to do that anyway, I may aswell make the skins myself/use custome skins that people send to me.

I am a perfectionist of sorts, which is why I am intent on making this Mod special, and in alot of ways original.
I want people to look and think "COOL!" whenever a different Academy Member pops up in the Level.
I don't want them to think "Seen one, seen em all!"

As for modelling, I am not going to be modelling new player models. However, if a member wishes, I can re-skin existing custom models and implement them. For example, Is somebody wants their species to be that of Kit Fisto, I will re-skin the Kit Fisto skin that the Academy Server uses and modify it to the Members wishes.
Or if someone wants their species to be Zabrak, I'll modify the Darth Maul skin etc. etc.
This goes the Same for the Bossk model, If you want to be a Trando FaDed, I can re skin the Bossk model to give you a more personalised look.

The reason I am thinking of implementing the Imps into it is because it would make it very easy for me to do. I wouldn't have to skin loads of different types of baddies except maybe one or two Dark Jedi Skins, and of course, the final Boss, POSSIBLY an Apprentice Darkie, like Tavion.

One final point I'd like to make is in reguard to your DS Vs. Doobie Storyline.
I like that idea, it opens up may, many opportunities for Humourous implements and stuff like that. I am not totally disreguarding it.
I have actually copied your entire post and pasted it into my 'Academy Projects' folder along with a number of other things that I'm trying to do for the Academy.

But this idea came to me first, and it seemed like a good one to do a sort of serious Mod based around the Academy.
This way, combined with the heaps of Advertising I will also implement into it, could then be uploaded to most, if not all major JO file sites, like Massasi and JKII.net.
And since the numbers of good SP levels for JO are VERY low, ALOT of people will want to download it, thus, seeing the adds, checking us out here at the site and even Enrolling to the Academy. Which will hopefully get us hundereds more active members.

On a final note, I'd just like to thank Sniya for posting on this thread and trying to help me get some staff for this project. :D
Cheers Sniya!

If anyone has anything else they want to ask, be my guest.
All questions are good questions. And I do mean ALL questions.

Peace.

- Virty. :alliance:
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This comment was edited by Virtue on Jul 03 2003 12:51am.

Jul 02 2003 10:38pm

FaDed
 - Student
 FaDed

i vote for a fun level, aka DJ vs doobie.

i have questions though. when you say you are wanting to skins for each member of the cast, do you mean you want to do a custom, personalized skin and MODEL? are you planning on not using the already made skins on the servers? is it a problem to have people in the cast use the same skin? i know that there are people in the academy that are recognized by the skin that they use. for example, myself, i am the only person that i know of that uses the trandoshan skin that comes built into the game (ya know...the bossk skin). i'm just wondering about these things because it would save you a whole lot of time if you found out what skins the cast members use on the servers and decide if it's a problem to have repeats.

VOTE FOR DJ SITH VS. DOOBIE!!! :D

Jul 02 2003 09:16pm

Sniya
 - Student
 Sniya

right skinnners you all list your willingness here so we can see if this babys possible.
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Jul 02 2003 08:46pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

I've heard from the danish dude on #jediacademy (a copenhagenish guy :() that it comes out the 14th of November, and he has contacts in Gamereactor (basically the biggest gaming site in Scandinavia if I remember correctly).

Jul 02 2003 08:38pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

How about we somehow make the enemies the spammers, lamers and tkers you find on public servers? But in a Star Wars way, somehow... I dunno. Make it a struggle between the massed spammers and the few, civilised JA members?

Btw, yeah, Piggott's level was based upon being one large level you go back and forth in. That's why he was stuck when he hit the voice limit.

Edit: you could always convert the level to JA when it comes out... you might find that it's better for editing so you can do more impressive stuff.
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This comment was edited by GHarris on Jul 02 2003 08:45pm.

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