| An email from La Magra | |
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doobie - Jedi Council  |
The recently departed La Magra asked the Council to post this email from him, so here it is: "hey, I don't know where to start but as some of you might know allready I've recently been banned from the JA. I am taking full responsibility for the ban, because I believe that the council took the right decision. I'd like to apologize to the ppl I've hurt with my actions. I'd never ment to hurt any of you. But the truth is that I did hurt some of you and I deserve to be punished so I am accepting this ban without further fight. I'd also like to say, alltho it is unlikely, but if the council should decide to lift my ban, I'll probably never return to the JA. The JA has been a part of my life for more than a year and a half and I loved every moment here. But I won't return for one reason. Missing the JA is a constant reminder of what I've done wrong, it will remind me of whats wrong with my personality and for those that I've and other, I promise that I'll never let it get this far ever again. I don't blame anyone for looking at me differently or being disgusted with me cause quite frankly I am disgusted with myself at the moment. I've hurt some ppl that I care very much about and thats absolutly untolarable. I also like to mention that from this moment I won't message any JA member ever again, unless they make it clear to me that they still want to keep in contact with me (which I am hoping that few of the good friends I made here will do, and that they will forgive me for what I've done). Thats all I wanted to say. For whats its worth, I truly am sorry about my actions. LaMagra" _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Lord Exar Kun - Student 
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bart dont even think about not staying in touch with me, I definetely wanna stay friends, and I still respect you  . Hope you looked at this thread, coz else I just made a useless comment  . _______________ -Retired april the 19th 2004 |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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We're not holding grudges, we had a minor disagreement _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Axion - Student 
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guys don't hold gruges to each other because of a ban.. like maul sed.. just let the past fade away.. my 0.02$ and i don't really know maggy that well or how he used to be so.. im not going to judge or anything like that. _______________ Axion - Yeah. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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I apologize for flaming like that You did nothing to deserve that, I just had one of my serious moments there, and well, you struck a nerve. But I'm okay now, and you have no reason for apologizing. It is I who should have been more careful, not you. My sincerest apologies --BHB-- _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Aron - Retired 
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Bail, my post was not in response to you; it was to Cuzza. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. This comment was edited by Aron on Mar 30 2004 08:06pm. |
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Flash - Student 
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Quote: Infact...none of you know sh*t... Actually, I know a lot of specifics about what he has done... |
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Squibit - Student 
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Quote: Did anyone actually consider the feelings of the person/s directly affected by this? no...why? I think more likly it is beacuse, as you so elegantly put it, Quote: Infact...none of you know sh*t... so people posting messages such as good luck magra etc. Are basing them on what they thought of him not knowing about ... whatever it is that "none of us" know. I think that in my brother Bails post when he said Quote: and sure if the JACs were to ask my opinion I would bring him back in He means that due to the fact he has only seen the good side of magra he would not be able to say la magra should be banned. also the Quote: sorry to see u go' messages I completly agree with. Even if I did know what it is la magra has done and could base my opinion on that. It is shame that one of our members has to go who has been with us for such a long time (well before my time at least), I know he did things that were wrong and that he was forced to go, but that makes it even MORE of a shame to see him go. Edit: Btw, I do not mean to specificaly target you with my points Helen, I did miss your appology for going over the top message Sorry Darth maul you are quite right i missed your post also, I really should finishing reading the thread before starting my reply... Sorry everyone _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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That's why I said this post should die, seeing as it isn't helping people to forget what has happened. Just leave it. |
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Hèlèñ¢å†hè®îñè - Student 
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ok i've calmed my pants for two mins, I take back the stfu's only cause i'm an angel *cough* and I generally dont speak like that  and jj, i'm not angry at anyone who's posted on here, i'd just say, think twice before posting on a sensitive subject. thats all I have to say. _______________ Treat others the way you expect to be treated
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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Like I pointed out to Helen on IRC, it isn't easy for people who don't know what's going on to judge this situation. They're confused and sad, so it's not proper to hold that against them, and she agreed with that. She's tired with this whole situation, which I understand. This comment was edited by Mookie on Mar 30 2004 05:28pm. |
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I know full well what went on Helen. He apologised. Do you expect him to shit you Tiffany Cufflinks to compensate you? I doubt it. You can't ask for much more than an apology. Don't take it out on everyone because we don't hold a grudge. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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sowwie  _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Hèlèñ¢å†hè®îñè - Student
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This place makes me sick, this whole thread makes my stomach turn, I don't know what's more nauseating...the 'hey good luck magra' or the mere thought of 'bring him back'. Did anyone actually consider the feelings of the person/s directly affected by this? no...why? cause hey! he's a good guy!...sad to see u go!..yea right!...you tell that to the person/s on the receiving end of his 'goodguy' personality..Infact...none of you know sh*t...Sometimes I hear of people being banned for things that well lets just say..are well 'not so serious' but hey wtf do I know eh..I don't even play the game! and sometimes I actually question those who have authority to do so..this time I have nothing but utter respect for those council members that took this decision. Rule breaking is completely unnacceptable and in this case...when something so serious affects RL it is completely intollerable...so to all the opinionated people who've stated their goodwills and 'sorry to see u go' messages I think it's best you stfu unless you know the full extent and the seriousness of this ban...cause believe me..if only you knew. _______________ Treat others the way you expect to be treated
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D@RtHM@UL - Student
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Just let this thread die people. You cannot live in the past. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Aron, please don't take this personal, but do you even read my posts before you answer them? Did I even once say I want him back in? NO. I said: If the JAC's would ask my opinion... WOULD is the point here, which they obviously won't. I know I am in no position to say 'bring him back in' since I have no idea what transpired with him. And did I say the ban wasn't justified? didn't I say: "but I trust the JAC's judgement on this matter"?? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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CuZzA - Student
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lol, i know they dont, and if the ban was justified, so be it. _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Aron - Retired
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We have 5 Council members, each VERY trustworthy. If you think they are leaking information to students who shouldn't know about it, feel free to. ... they don't. Besides that, IF a student would truly know everything, he would agree with this decision; not fight it. This comment was edited by Aron on Mar 30 2004 04:35pm. |
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CuZzA - Student
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dnt be so sure i dont know EVERYTHING aron edit: but no, i dont, but that doesn't mean students can't make any sorts of comments. some student might know what has happened...and knows ALL the details. so u can't go around saying students dont know everything when they just might _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world This comment was edited by CuZzA on Mar 30 2004 04:31pm. |
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Aron - Retired
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Don't come with stuff like "i would bring him back in, lift his ban" if you don't know every detail. Harsh as it may sound, students are NOT in the position to make remarks like that if they don't know all the details. No one here likes banning people, no matter who or what. Because some matters are just too sensitive to give out all the details, you will just have to believe the Council on their word. The ban WAS justified. I can understand that a lot of people never saw any of this, because they still see the "old Magra", but please keep in mind that you just don't know everything, and won't get to know it either. As I said, no one likes to ban people. This thread is here because Magra wanted to let you know how he felt about the things he did, not as a discussion on if the ban was justified or not. Magra made a mistake, and he has been banned for it. Permanently. If he is truly sorry, it is a good thing, but it still means he has to pay the price for it. This comment was edited by Aron on Mar 30 2004 04:32pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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hey this shocks me too man but I trust the JAC's judgement on this matter. And I don't think he got banned over night here, I'm sure he had some remarks to stop it first. It's a sad day when a Trainer needs to get banned Let's hope we never have to do that again. And sure, if the JAC would ask my opinion, I'd say 'Bring him back in', but like he said himself, he probably wouldn't return here. He is sorry, which is obvious in his mail, but he doesn't want to return. How can he return? He will just be watched angrily by some, and how can he undergo such a treatment? I agree with him, actually. If I would've been banned and lifted, and if I've been banned for a very serious reason, I'd probably not return. Since I would have lost people's respect, which is never pleasant to anyone. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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CuZzA - Student 
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done it before? i was never told about that...but still, i'm pretty annoyed to see him go _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Cuzza, it is not a one time event. He has done it before, and trust me, it was well deserved, considering what was done (and since I'm very fond of some of the people he harassed, I cannot say I'm sorry to see him go). Just my 0.25 DKR. |
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CuZzA - Student
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Yes, i agree, this DOES shock me, but even more so that loafs bans. As u could see, loaf was a great guy until he went downhill, we knew something was wrong and we knew he was gonna get banned, but this? this is toally different. I really dont know why he got banned (well i do, thanks to doobie) but i really never knew anything was wrong man, if i was a part of the JAC, i'd definitly lift ur ban, because i know what ur like as an alround guy. Even if u did do something wrong, however bad it was (unless really serious) i think a ban was unneccassry. I shouldn't say this, but if we all did one thing wrong, then we'd all be banned. Sry JA, i'm just stickin' up for my mate, like you guys would do. Viva la Magra ps: what i mean is that a ban was...kinda wrong. he's alot more good than bad, and if it was bad, then maybe a rank deduction? my $0.02 -Cuz _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world This comment was edited by CuZzA on Mar 30 2004 03:48pm. |
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SaberWeildinKow - Student 
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I know it's not my place to post here but...dang... ... |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Maggy, if you're reading this, hope you got my email. I would hate to lose contact with you! _______________ Website |
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