The Jedi Academy- The "Official" JA Logo Contest

The "Official" JA Logo Contest

Apr 26 2004 08:11am

3th
- Retired

i wanted to call this the "official" JA logo contest, but i think i should get a JAC blessing first

(edit: yea, got DJ's blessing!)

anyway, we now have a Logo Contest folder on our msn groups collection. so get out your copy of illustrator, photoshop, corel draw, ms paint, or whateva you got, and give it a rip.

also if anyone wants to submit something but is too lazy to sign up for the ja photo collection group then just e-mail it to me and i'll post it for you. (please keep the size reasonable.)

visit the msn groups folder here: JA Logo Contest

i put in a few images i knocked out a while back for the JAA when aphex was making that site. nothing fantastic mind you. please feel free to post stuff for feedback and comments from the public here

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This post was edited by 3th on Apr 28 2004 05:33pm.

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So which one do you like?

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Jul 15 2004 05:07am

DJ Sith
- Jedi Council

Well we've discussed it. Thanks for waiting everyone. I'll be frank. None of the entries really caught our eye. SO... This poll has the top five entries. We're going to leave a poll open for one week. The winner of this poll will work into their design into something we want to have on our stuff and work it into a format that can work with cafe press. Here are the entries. Now get to voting.

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May 01 2004 05:58am

DJ Sith
- Jedi Council

To sweeten the deal a little.. the winner of this gets one free item ordered form our new store with YOUR logo on it. This can be a shirt, mug, thong, lunchbox, or whatever.

I don't want a logo that shouts "HEY LADIES DONT COME NEAR THIS ONE! HE'S A JEDI". I like minimalism in a logo design. Some tidbits.

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This comment was edited by DJ Sith on May 01 2004 06:05am.

Apr 28 2004 05:18pm

3th
- Retired

here are some ground rules approved by DJ_Sith himself:

1. DO NOT use any copyrighted material. this means, no in-game screens of any Jedi Knight stuff. It would be ideal that whatever you create is all your own stuff. Also, be aware of any copyright issues on fonts you may have downloaded or acquired. Most font makers will let you use them however you like, they just like to know when they get used on something that's getting produced. DJ cannot stress how much he doesn't want you to use copyrighted stuff, so DON'T DO IT!

2. Make sure the idea (logo/text etc.) is reproducible at a high resolution for printing. (I.e. don't make a small image that looks good on the screen but will get all blurry and crap when blown up to a decent size and put on a T-shirt.) The ideal final format will be EPS, PDF, or some vector graphic format for ease of scaling.

3. The logo will go on a white (or light colored) background primarily, check the CafePress site for a full list of products. http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/products/viewall.aspx (Ideally the logo should have NO background to it, but for preview purposes, please put it on top of white.)

4. The idea behind the logo is that it be in line with a corporate identity. I.e. meaning this logo can stand alone or have supporting text. It should look good when reproduced at a variety of sizes, from a bumper sticker to a wall poster.

5. The JAC's would like to see a variety of quality ideas, so treat this initial go around as brainstorming session. DJ and the JAC's have very high standards that they'd like to see upheld by representing the JA with a design that can stand next to the classic logos of our time (the NFL, yes the national football league, is actually a good place to look at how logos today can become powerful iconic statements. For example, compare the new Patriots logo to the old one. http://www.logoserver.com/NFL.html Newer logos such as the Texans, Falcons, Titans, and Patriots show how a logo can be relatively simple, yet make a bold statement.) Ideas will be refined and developed by anyone that wishes. The final decision does lie in the hand of the JAC's. But as usual they listen to everyones' thoughts

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This comment was edited by Orion on Apr 28 2004 06:18pm.

May 12 2004 05:29pm

Halendor
- Ex-Student

Nice Aratan, but if printed on a t-shirt or mug, I think people will be wondering why the loop of the 'J' is cut off.

May 12 2004 12:47pm

Narcost
- Student

whoei Aratan, that is very nice!

/me votes for Aratan at the moment

-NC
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This comment was edited by Narcost on May 12 2004 12:48pm.

May 12 2004 10:58am

Ataris
- Milwaukees Finest

Ok..
I had such a weird idea coming to my mind today, that I just couldn't resist trying it out. go check out my newest creation here

I think it's kinda cool

May 11 2004 10:58pm

Jacen Aratan
- Student

Aratan's sucky entry.

May 11 2004 09:09pm

Padawan
- Student

I just asked to join the group hopefully I should have the little something I did up soon, not that it's very good. :/

This comment was edited by Padawan on May 11 2004 09:12pm.

May 11 2004 04:24pm

Halendor
- Ex-Student

OK, here are my thoughts on the recent submissions.

Mobility, I love the new concept, but I have a few suggestions:
- make only the saber stick out of the box, and put the text in the box, the 'JA' text is a bit blurry now, and maybe it will bring more unity into the logo;
- DJ said he didn't want the logo to scare people, so perhaps the slogan 'the place for jedi training' is too direct. Your version of it doesn't quite grasp all of what the Academy is, in my opinion anyway. Maybe something like 'a jk3:ja gaming community'.

Ataris, I love the 'The Jedi Academy' part, but the slogan looks a bit too much 'slapped on'. Maybe you should try to intergrate it more into the logo.

3th - I assume you created the minimalistic logo's - I really like the 'another minimalistic logo', but I think it needs some more text.

May 11 2004 04:10pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
- Student

Ataris, I love that logo bro. It looks sweet. The only problem with the "waves/force" is that yo wont be able to duplicate that on thread for shirts, hats, mugs without it costing major cash.

These logos have to have PATHS that the print company can work from or else the rendering wont do the design justice and it will become all pixelated and such.

But your logo pwns hezzeh! Looks real nice!

-DM-
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May 11 2004 03:59pm

Ataris
- Milwaukees Finest

Hiya!

The abstract logotypes are cool, the only thing that's kinda sad for them is that they don't relate to the JA in anyway..

I think a logo should identify us, not confuse people with the thought: "what the hell does this have to do with anything they talk about"

And yeah, I know my logo's only a text.. But I tried to make the waves in the background symbolize the very basic of our cause, the Force, with its many different paths for everyone and everything.. Everything still connecting to the "Jedi Academy" -text.. This is my vision of how the system works here..

Hope someone likes it.

May 11 2004 04:14am

3th
- Retired

Quote:

wow very nice... since i love ur work I wont say any more for threat of being stoned

LOL JP

i won't bark at you again i promise.

LOVE the new stuff there moby, i'll give you some proper feedback when i get some time

killer improvement IMHO.

and Leif...i hope there will be much more than just moby and i here. just have to be patient i suppose

ideally i'd like the "winning" design to be a collaboration and not so much of a deathmatch faceoff

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May 11 2004 02:21am

Fire
- Student

Nice!!! This is an extremely close competition between 3th and Moby, both's submitions look awesome!!!

Good luck everyone!!

May 11 2004 02:11am

Flash
- Student

I liked Moby's first one much better, and I also still love the idea on Hal's first design with the personalized shirt/mug with your name on it.

May 10 2004 08:55pm

JP
- Academy Pimp

wow very nice... since i love ur work I wont say any more for threat of being stoned

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May 10 2004 10:10am

Narcost
- Student

nice man, much more abstract. i like the font used for "the jedi academy", looks good with those 2 colors. i think it would be nicer to fill in the saber a bit. it so extremely white, maybe you could put some elements in it, dunno few blue spot to make it look more like a hilt..? *fhew long scentence..*

good work

keep it up!

-NC
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This comment was edited by Narcost on May 10 2004 10:11am.

May 10 2004 06:05am

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
- Student

Hey Guys, Sorry I have neglected this. Been out of town and real busy. I did another one in Freehand and "corporated" it up a little, please give your feedback, thanks!

Moby's Second Submission

-DM-
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This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on May 10 2004 07:13am.

May 01 2004 07:41pm

JamesF1
- Student

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May 01 2004 07:17pm

3th
- Retired

hey James, thanks for the entry!

i'd say there's a little too much emphasis put on the "the" though. the T just seems to dominate the layout, which i don't know is so appropriate since the place gets abbreviated as "JA" more than "TJA." the color choices might be a bit strong, seems a little too far towards high school colors, being so bold vibrant and exciting. i think DJ is looking for a little more subtlety.

i like the font though, and the bevel/cutout effect could be a nice touch if you punch it up a bit or play with it somehow.

i look forward to more

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May 01 2004 05:53pm

JamesF1
- Student

First one, developing more ideas:

http://gpleague.simracingworld.com/stuff/ja-logo-contest/jalogo.png
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May 01 2004 09:57am

JamesF1
- Student

Is there a closing date?

I'm working on mine ATM

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Apr 30 2004 09:53pm

Halendor
- Ex-Student

A few idea's:

The JA is a close community. I thought of people standing shoulder to shoulder 'carrying' the words The Jedi Academy. All abstract though.

Abstract Jedi in the pose that you normalle have in-game with single saber. Along the lightsaber (vertically) the URL and over the Jedi (below the lightsaber), the text The Jedi Academy.

Just a few thoughts

I'm a total failure at making images myself, but I love to edit them and slap some text on it.

Apr 30 2004 06:30pm

3th
- Retired

i completely understand my fellow desinger bro

if it were not for a world of rich and diverse tastes life would be pretty damn boring

and we'd all have to design exactly the same! what fun would that be!?!? i'm looking forward to seeing the next round of logos!

and some new ideas from other people maybe? even if you feel like you can't make something, feel free to throw out ideas that might inspire one of the designers around here. thanks!
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Apr 30 2004 03:25pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
- Student

Cool, thanks 3th.

Bevels, Glows, and Shadows are the photoshop n00b skills they always get when they first start to learn it. I realize that your shooting for vector art....NOW, lol.../me slaps 3th)

My point behind the "Layering" is to be very Eyecatching. THINK, people will be WEARING this or Drinking from it. N00b layering does not always apply when your doing printwork. Note the different colors and brightness. These are the elements you will want to target when your focusing on bringing attention to JUST a logo.

I understand the corporate identity theory and yes, 3th your one/two color logos certainly give that impression of corporate identity. (Very creative, btw

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So, i will give another crack at it using freehand and illustrator. But my theory will probably stay the same on the design. I do this for a living as well ya know, gotta trust my instincts, hehe

It will change though, I like some of Halendors ideas for sure.

-DM-
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This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Apr 30 2004 03:27pm.

Apr 30 2004 01:24am

3th
- Retired

heya Moby, here we go!

i think there's a little too much layering going on between the circular JA background, the saber, and "The Jedi Academy," all with glows and drop shadows competition for attention. overall i'd say there's six separate elements that maybe make things a little cluttered. the three tag lines, "Community, Teaching, Dueling" "www.thejediacademy.net" and "The Place for Jedi Training" might be a bit much. i also wonder how well the lightsaber hilts will reproduce at a high resoultion. are those something you made? or did you get them from somewhere?

i think it could be cool to have a lightsaber hilt (maybe one not quite so rendered) act as more of the logo element (the way the circular J and A are now.) and then let the central "The Jedi Academy" sit just above the saber hilt. (just found a page with high rez enough images that you could "draw" on top of to get sort of an orthagonal side view of the saber as the logo element.)

i like the idea of using "the place for jedi training" as it makes a good connection back to the slogan used on the site here.

um...yeah, so that's my professor critique mode coming out

please everyone, more entries! more feedback!

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Apr 29 2004 10:39pm

D@RtHM@UL
- Student

I wish I could make fonts like you guys

They all rock!

Apr 29 2004 10:06pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
- Student

Thanks Halendor!!!! I like something I can work with, your tha man!

-DM-
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Apr 29 2004 09:42pm

Halendor
- Ex-Student

As for slogans, I thought of: 'The no. 1 global Jedi community'. My thoughts on DM's logo:

Good:
- url; lowercase pwns

- logo; it's rebel-imperial, right?
- lower slogan; I think it works, 'the place for jedi training'
- composition; good stuff

Less good

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- font; maybe a different (rounder/harsher) font for the slogans?
- sabers; they seem a bit unnatural, too short maybe
- red/blue; this is really personal, but I don't like these particular shades - maybe a bit darker?

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