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Maher "Maher"
Jedi Knight
Joined September 2005, Proud padawan of Laziana, Grandpa of Senatu Family

Location:  Finland
Occupation:  Force Spirit Of Jedi Academy
Interests:  Music, Techonology, Philosophy, Society, Natural, Education, Economy, Teaching, Learning
Homepage:  http://mahersenatu.wixsite.com/maherholo
Padawan of:  Laziana
Padawans  DracoLich Senatu
The Cookie
Elessar
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Mar 26 2010 09:18am

Elessar
 - Student
 Elessar

You are old, Grandpa Maher
a poem by Lewis Carroll, edited by Elessar

‘You are old, Grandpa Maher,’ the young man said,
‘And your hair has become very white;
And yet you incessantly stand on your head -
Do you think, at your age, it is right?’

‘In my youth,’ Grandpa Maher replied to his grandson,
‘I feared it might injure the brain;
But, now that I’m perfectly sure I have none,
Why, I do it again and again.’

‘You are old,’ said the youth, ‘as I mentioned before,
And have grown most uncommonly fat;
Yet you turned a back-somersault in at the door -
Pray, what is the reason of that?’

‘In my youth,’ said the sage, as he shook his grey locks,
‘I kept all my limbs very supple
By the use of this ointment - one shilling the box -
Allow me to sell you a couple?’

‘You are old,’ said the youth, ‘and your jaws are too weak
For anything tougher than suet;
Yet you finished the goose, with the bones and the beak -
Pray how did you manage to do it?’

‘In my youth,’ said his grandpa, ‘I took to the law,
And argued each case with my wife;
And the muscular strength, which it gave to my jaw,
Has lasted the rest of my life.’

‘You are old,’ said the youth, ‘one would hardly suppose
That your eye was as steady as ever;
Yet you balanced an eel on the end of your nose -
What made you so awfully clever?’

‘I have answered three questions, and that is enough,’
Said his grandpa; ‘don’t give yourself airs!
Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?
Be off, or I’ll kick you down stairs!’

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The Senatu philosophy: every JKA player is essentially a baboon who likes to hit stuff .
-Senatu brother to Buster and Dracolich.
-Proud owner of Draco's 50th, 99th, Degor's 500th and Maher's 3519th comment!
-Proud owner of the last word in the everlasting conversations with Maher.


This comment was edited by DJ Sith on Mar 26 2010 05:04pm.


Dec 26 2009 08:06pm

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

Happy x-mas.
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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

Dec 26 2009 05:49pm

Siren_Mintaka
 - Student
 Siren_Mintaka

Merry Christmas, Maher!

- Rin
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Former padawan of RoseRed, and cofounder of the Wii! Triumvirate! Quote:
In the words of Old Ben, "Not as retarded or as stupid as a public, but an elegant community for a more civilized age." - Jedi_Pimp


Dec 26 2009 12:21pm

Elessar
 - Student
 Elessar

Merry Christmas old man ;)
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The Senatu philosophy: every JKA player is essentially a baboon who likes to hit stuff .
-Senatu brother to Buster and Dracolich.
-Proud owner of Draco's 50th, 99th, Degor's 500th and Maher's 3519th comment!
-Proud owner of the last word in the everlasting conversations with Maher.


Dec 25 2009 05:09pm

ZantuS
 - Student
 ZantuS

Mielenkiintosta keskustelua tuossa teillä. :P
Hyvää Joulua!
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Happiness is the ability to say "So what?"

Dec 25 2009 11:16am

Jaitro Kyrall
 - Student
 Jaitro Kyrall

Merry Christmas Maher.
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[Proud owner of Liso's 300th comment!],[Proud owner of Carrock's 400th comment!],
[Proud owner of Dash's 1400th comment!],[Proud owner of Wicek's 1800th comment!]
[Proud owner of Carrock's 1400th comment!],[Proud owner of Muro's 500th comment!]


Dec 25 2009 09:54am

Dash Starlight
 - Jedi Instructor
 Dash Starlight

Merry Christmas Maher :D
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The name is Bond. James Bond.

Dec 25 2009 12:53am

Dark D'Kana
 - Student
 Dark D'Kana

Merry Christmas Maher :D
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Dec 24 2009 10:33pm

Laziana
 - Jedi Instructor
 Laziana

Merry Christmas, Maher :)
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Proud owner of Buster Senatu's 200th & 300th, Muro's 370th, Maher's 2100th, Henkes' 1639th, Johauna's 400th, 666th and 900th, Sho Koon's 2000th and Kain Sol's 600th comment Download Laziana's lightsaber here! Glory to Arstozka!

Dec 15 2009 10:52pm

Siren_Mintaka
 - Student
 Siren_Mintaka

The concept, as outlined by Marx is that at first there has to be a temporary elite group of leaders that gets phased out as the community decides they no longer need a leader. Were there a leader, not everyone would be equal :P.

- Rin
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Former padawan of RoseRed, and cofounder of the Wii! Triumvirate! Quote:
In the words of Old Ben, "Not as retarded or as stupid as a public, but an elegant community for a more civilized age." - Jedi_Pimp


Dec 15 2009 04:18pm

Siren_Mintaka
 - Student
 Siren_Mintaka

True communism assumes that in a group of people, no one will attempt to lead or gain power. That just kind of goes against what people need. People would gather around someone regardless of whether they wanted to be followed or not- and people would either try and blatantly gain power, or do so using more... subversive or sneaky methods...

- Rin
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Former padawan of RoseRed, and cofounder of the Wii! Triumvirate! Quote:
In the words of Old Ben, "Not as retarded or as stupid as a public, but an elegant community for a more civilized age." - Jedi_Pimp


Dec 15 2009 02:35pm

Siren_Mintaka
 - Student
 Siren_Mintaka

Of course I define communism at the route- Marx would probably kill himself were he alive today and saw the Chinese and North Korean perversion of his ideals.

As for human nature, I don't really know all that I feel about it- it's a tricky thing. I do, however, find myself somewhere between the conflict and functionalist theories, if you know anything about sociology.

- Rin
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Former padawan of RoseRed, and cofounder of the Wii! Triumvirate! Quote:
In the words of Old Ben, "Not as retarded or as stupid as a public, but an elegant community for a more civilized age." - Jedi_Pimp


Dec 15 2009 08:04am

Siren_Mintaka
 - Student
 Siren_Mintaka

I define communism as the ideology set forth by Karl Marx and Frederick Engles.

- Rin
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Former padawan of RoseRed, and cofounder of the Wii! Triumvirate! Quote:
In the words of Old Ben, "Not as retarded or as stupid as a public, but an elegant community for a more civilized age." - Jedi_Pimp


Dec 15 2009 08:04am

Siren_Mintaka
 - Student
 Siren_Mintaka

I define communism as the ideology set forth by Karl Marx and Frederick Engles.

- Rin
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Former padawan of RoseRed, and cofounder of the Wii! Triumvirate! Quote:
In the words of Old Ben, "Not as retarded or as stupid as a public, but an elegant community for a more civilized age." - Jedi_Pimp


Dec 14 2009 05:08pm

Siren_Mintaka
 - Student
 Siren_Mintaka

Quote:
Rin... [Communism] works in small communities...

These people has cut out theirselves from the system, some are completely and some are partly...

And well, we are just exchanging ideas with Amik in healthy manner, no personal offense has intented at any part... :)


I just meant that the concept of Communism goes against human nature :P.

- Rin
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Former padawan of RoseRed, and cofounder of the Wii! Triumvirate! Quote:
In the words of Old Ben, "Not as retarded or as stupid as a public, but an elegant community for a more civilized age." - Jedi_Pimp


This comment was edited by Siren_Mintaka on Dec 14 2009 05:09pm.

Dec 11 2009 02:38pm

Dash Starlight
 - Jedi Instructor
 Dash Starlight

That's good to hear. Yeah, these are busy times indeed, but the Christmas holidays will make up for 'em :D
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The name is Bond. James Bond.

Dec 02 2009 11:03pm

Dash Starlight
 - Jedi Instructor
 Dash Starlight

Hey Maher, it's good to hear form you. I'm pretty good, thanks for asking. Things are busy with my study this week, but fortunately it'll settle down the coming weeks again. How are things on your end?
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The name is Bond. James Bond.

Nov 28 2009 07:12am

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

I just don't believe communism works, that is all. Everything else is a joke.
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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

Nov 28 2009 06:23am

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

Of course I accept, I won't hold it against you. You seem a little off ease on my view of greed so I wont make a scene out of it.

Perhaps we can continue at a later date.
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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Nov 28 2009 06:25am.

Nov 28 2009 04:13am

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

Quote:
Irrelevant! I have allready said my opinion about you... My way of speaking shouldn't affect you personally, anymore...


The way you speak[type] tells a lot. This was the first time you said "bull****" in our debate and it's incredibly offensive. Even if you didn't mean anything by it, it is a direct attack. Regretfully, I have to withdraw. If a debate turns into an argument then we will both seem foolish.
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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

Nov 27 2009 11:53pm

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

I believe you pointed to greed being one of the deadly sins earlier, correct me if I'm wrong. You also said you follow these moral beliefs, so you must think it is evil.

Oh, just because you must bend to a few formalities of capitalism like buying stuff you are free of greed? By that logic you are inherently greedy regardless because you live in a capitalist society. Maher, that is just an excuse really.

If you want to do more, then put forward ALL of your spare time and resources towards it. Avoid capitalism, it is very possible. You can just go into the forest, gather food and distribute it to people who need food. It sounds absurd, yes, but you are trying so hard to avoid the simple fact that you are greedy just like me.

If you want to be a martyr then I present you a paradox. That means you want to leave behind your real loved ones for a spiritual cause, which is also greedy.

When you are a child, you help with whatever skills you already have. A baby likely doesn't have enough self awareness to help, but it does have many many needs to fulfill. A six year old can pick up trash instead of play video games.

You can give your time talking to the homeless, that's not stupid. We have social needs, after all and the homeless often are exiled from working class society.

If you believe my belief in greed being an instinct is wrong, you could have just respectfully disagreed. That is quite an offensive way to put it. That's like if I said you were a moron for your beliefs. This is what separates an argument from a debate. Mutual respect of stances and if you cannot come up with a reason to refute my claims, you can kindly withdraw and I will respect your decision. I don't respond to you to prove I am right, just to see if you have anything to say which might change my stance.
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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Nov 27 2009 11:54pm.

Nov 27 2009 10:23pm

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

Who said it had to be official charity? You could simply purchase groceries, like I said, and give it somebody you know needs them. It's as simple as that, no need to go through the administrative fees of a charity. Isn't that just an excuse for greed? Saying giving to charity is just a way to buy good conscience... I disagree completely. It is "A" way to buy your way to heaven, so to speak, but it is not the only reason. You can simply give to charity out of plain logic which is objective:

"I will give anything over my needs to charity because other people have needs which they cannot meet. If I have free time which I cannot make good use of, I will aid with distributing surplus goods to those who I know need them."

The fact which you will refuse to be a martyr is greedy too. What if sacrificing your life will do JUST a little more good than if you lived through your entire life? There is no escaping greed, Maher. Whatever reason you have for not donating all your spare time and capital will inevitability lead to greed.

This is where I tell you greed is not necessarily bad. Albeit not a godly trait, it is useful for a reason. I'm not sure if you just resent calling it greed because you have related the word to evil, but we all succumb to its use.


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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

Nov 27 2009 08:36pm

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

There is a way to devout all your money and resources which you do not need in an affective manner. Ignorance of the way to do so, I say that in a non offensive manner, is not an excuse. You are still greedy just like me and almost everybody else in the industrialized world simply because you live beyond your needs.

For every instance where charity would have just made a situation worse for a person, there are dozens where it would have the situation better.
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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Nov 27 2009 08:37pm.

Nov 27 2009 07:59pm

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

Come now, Maher, you know greed is almost absolute around the world. You do not even explain why you don't devout your extra money to charity besides saying you want to help them in more concrete ways. I believe you can go buy food from a super market and drop it off at a homeless shelter. That is a very concrete way. Care to explain why you do not do this with ALL of your disposable income? I'll explain why I don't: because I'm moderately greedy. I like my designer jeans...new computers...etc.

I am quite sure you have disposable income at one point. Unless, for some strange coincidence, you make exactly the amount of money it takes for you to live to the penny. Is that what you imply?

I don't exactly say greed is good, but I say it is wrong to see it as pure evil. I have said again and again, greed is a human trait which we should direct for better outcomes. Can anything be ONLY evil? I believe everything is a mixture of both and Greed is quite even in that sense.

Greed augments our survival instinct, we subtly use it constantly. I'm short for time so I'll leave it at that.
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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

Nov 27 2009 07:16pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Well, China's growth is undeniably present - tt's very rapid as well as sustained. However, it is also unequal and uneven with major tensions between the coastal vs mainland and urban vs rural areas. Nevermind the huge challenges that China faces: environmental issues, the state owned enterprise problem, demographic and social problems, i.e. lots of inequality, poverty, displacement and unemployment.

China's obviously on the rise, but it's still got a long way to go.
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Nov 26 2009 10:48pm

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

You feel no greed, do you? Then why don't you give away every penny you have which will not go towards meeting your basic survival needs to charity?

Perhaps you are completely numb to greed, but that does not mean it is not present.

Greed is universal and we all show it. Some are not aware, some have no ill intentions whatsoever, it does not matter. Unless you have the opportunity to live beyond your needs and completely reject doing so, you possess greed. By completely I mean C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y. No buying tv, books, what have you. They meet wants, not needs, and paying for them instead of giving to the needy is greedy.

Do you see how hard it is to avoid greed? If having needs is an instinct, going beyond those needs is part of your instincts. We can only be conditioned to suppress greed, but eliminating it requires a hard process. This can be genetic engineering, selective breeding or something which will diminish greed from our stocks.
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"Deos fortioribus adesse."

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