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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor  |
Since I cant play for a while I have lotsa time to think  and I asked myself the following question:Can a redstancer close his gaps completely? if u ask me, I have the impression he cannot... Let's imagine that's true, wouldnt it be wiser to use yellow vs a staff and/or duals instead of Red? Because if you cannot close ur gaps for a full 100 per cent, in theory, a redstancer will always loose... i think  So, what do you guys think?  _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. This post was edited by Orion on Dec 31 2004 09:35pm. |
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In theory, which single-saber stance would be the best against s staff or duals? Red... or yellow?
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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*Scissors Bail* |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: Personally i prefer red, but im still a learner so.... I like red too. Far more than yellow _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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yeah, wether u should use yellow or red greatly depens on ur fighting style... Mine is more like: stay away as best as u can, whne u see a chance, hit 'm, and run away Btw, Raziel, u had a good point there, I had never thought of the advantage of a slower stance myself  _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Ecks - Student 
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i don't have twitch reflexes, so it's very hard for me to exploit openings. Red suits my style way better, since I have time to think out the move, and then aim, rather than just twitch click as I see an opening. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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lol im trying too hard to be a know-it-all _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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Rofl, whenever i use red, I simply have more time 2 expose mysef as Im not 2 brilliant at positioning _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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the slow swings of red means you have more time to position yourself in the most effective position. Yellow is good for keeping on the enemy's back, and hitting and dodging. Personally i prefer red, but im still a learner so.... _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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The Dragon Reborn - Student 
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Ya, i think mixing stances is better. _______________ Padawan to Solitude "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to... suffering" -Jedi Master Yoda "I shall not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will allow it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone i will turn my inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only i will remain." -Bene Gesserit Litany, Dune |
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3th - Retired 
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come back and give us your sweet loving Sid!!! _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Carve - Student 
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There is no such thing as a predictable stance; only a novice duelist. Dueling isn't about swinging your saber. Dueling is like a war. You position, strategize, feint, attack weakpoints, avoid strengths... and you attack. All are equally important, but what you use only factors into one of those six aspects. Personally, I prefer to use Jedi Outcast. _______________ © |
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3th - Retired
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on the issue of speed too, red is always a good set-up like i mentioned below to make yellow seem faster. as Masta alluded to, deception is a very good ally. not every swing has to be a blow that lands, sometimes you swing to make your oppenent think. if you keep showing your opponent an opening with red, but stay just out of his/her range, then you get closer but switch to yellow they might get surprised when the gap suddenly isn't there. but yeah, as others have mentioned, that's all apart of the mind behind the saber. not the stance itself _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! This comment was edited by 3th on Jan 08 2005 01:23am. |
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3th - Retired 
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Quote: yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow everytime. yellow. red is predictable and slooooooow red can always be the set-up man for a nice delivery of yellow. there's just as many combos in red as there are in yellow btw, if it's predictable it's the user not the stance the worst stance is the one used the same way repeatedly _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor
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All good stuff, guys! Im really learning a lot here! And ty, Kha, for the warning: ill certainly look into it and see what I think of it as honorable/less than honorable and make my mind up on using it or not Thx! _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Khâ D'Kana - Student 
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I'm sure both stance can be used efficiently vs Staff/Duals. It's just a matter of how good you're mastering your stance control AND tactics. Anyway when you play a really skilled staffer he will be really good at countering your red. So if your red is counterable by yellow users. Forgive to use it vs a really skilled staffer/duals user. And for the way to closing red gaps. Don't forget swaying, poking and spinning are seen by many players as exploiting. It's a long debate. I'm not going to reopen it here for the 1000th time. But be carefull about the fact that some aren't perceiving it as an honourable way of fighting. my 2 cents, -Khâ D'Kana _______________ In light of day, nor dark of night, no evil shall escape our sight. Proud member of the D'Kana family This comment was edited by Khâ D'Kana on Jan 06 2005 11:03am. |
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Ùñçlé - Student 
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red is slow yes, but you can make it almost impossible to hit with if u use it right. Yellow has its stength and weaknesses just as red does, the best way to go is use a combination of both not just one against the other. _______________ If you look in the least likely places, you'll discover new possibilities. |
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Lirael - Jedi Council 
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yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow yellow everytime. yellow. red is predictable and slooooooow _______________ I can write my name with my sparkler. My sparkler > your lightsabre |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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if u do sway, a staffer has BIG problems. if anothoner know a good way of countering the swaying tell me please _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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2 ways 1: Also called "the red sway" is more frowned upon but works better then 2 imo... You start your swing and turn your mouse when your swing reaches the middle...to the direction of where the swing is leading (mostly right).Dont overturn it tho...unless you dont wanna end up doing 180° swings...which are even more frowned upon. So when you turn right when you swing...youll get 2 things when done correctly.You wont get hit because you are going to be out of range (the right turn will lead you to the right which means you will actually go a bit to the right...its enough to avoid getting hit) and you will have closed your gap and can chain another right swing with the same method. 2: This tactic is the "skilled" version of poking.Also called "aiming"... You try to keep the saber (while swinging) in your opponent which requires lot of training and a good ping...ive never seen someone using it really good (no i dont know l-rod...) but im sure it can be done. You move your mouse in the opposite direction of your swing while trying to keep the saber pointed at your opponent...so when he runs in for some attacks, he will most likely be hit (like running into a knife). Takes lot of practice though... _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor
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Quote: using the mouse turn tactic to close your gaps w00t! a new tactic I havent heard of yet, which I just have to learn as soon as I get back! How does it work? Do you follow your opponent by turning your mouse?  _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Yeah it just depends on if you can get a good swing off in red stance. Best thing is if someone does the sabernado (as i call it) you can just jump and give them the one hit overhead kill. But I wouldnt want to take on a fast staffer with red stance unless you know you can hit them and run alot. Yellow is balanced well enough to get decent dmg and speed and defence. It all just depends on your skill and the skill of the attacker. _______________ 4/20/2005----Left the academy because I did'nt feel welcomed. |
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n00b - Student 
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It all depends on who you are fighting. Some people defend against red really well with duals or staff. Some against yellow. It all depends. Find people who are good at one or another and duel them for a couple of hours. You will see your own weaknesses and will begin to correct them. A duel is all a matter of trial and error. If you try something and it doesn't work on one person, it may on another. Use your imagination and come up with your own techniques for your chosen style. This game in no way has come to a definitive end for inventiveness in any of the saber styles. The true masters of the game will always shock you when they put an end to the duel in a way you have never seen before. Find these people and practice what they do and try to find ways of doing things they haven't thought of. Add to the knowledge of the game and become a master yourself. No saber style or choice has a corner on the market when it comes to winning. Only creative people who aren't afraid to take risks stand above the crowd. _______________ Gone but hopefully not forgotten... This comment was edited by n00b on Jan 03 2005 06:09am. |
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JK13 /// jaws. - Student 
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My adivce? Use red but only after you have talked to Jedi_Prodigy or Hardwired Or paddeh sauce (superdupergummehbear) becuase thye are the masters of using the mouse turn tactic to close your gaps, which in my expierience really can piss of a staffer or dual user. _______________ It's a false hologram, it IS artificial... |
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Flash - Student 
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But correct! |
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Luke Skywalker - Student 
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Quote: It all depends on your style. Damn, that was vague. _______________  Luke Skywalker
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Fire - Student 
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It all depends on your style. |
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