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Lauq - Student |
Well I finally learned what wiggle is, but I don't have a clue about poke. I am basically looking for a n explanation and some advice here, how many of you here use wiggle and poke?, what is poke?, and are either worth learning?. _______________ One of the 4 council masters who belong to <<FE>>. This post was edited by Lauq on May 06 2006 08:25pm. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: heh, the Aurochs managed to reach number 3 in the ESL TDM ladder a few weeks ago, and we are the only non wiggle team in the league. We consider it an exploit, and we can beat almost any TFFA team in jka when at full strength, so gg to your 'you only moan cos you cant beat it lolz!' theory. *points to kano and stallls, oding his signature ' 0\/\/|\|3|) _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Gil-Galad - Student 
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heh, the Aurochs managed to reach number 3 in the ESL TDM ladder a few weeks ago, and we are the only non wiggle team in the league. We consider it an exploit, and we can beat almost any TFFA team in jka when at full strength, so gg to your 'you only moan cos you cant beat it lolz!' theory. _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life |
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SaZ - Student 
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kano, with all dearest respect - we have played this game for longer... _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Lol. i can garantee ive had more exploit experience than you, and i know why i would 'want' or 'need' to use it.and i used to think the same xD so im actualy laughing from Dayjavoo. Abusing it as in gaining multiple hits within a single swing. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Kano - Student 
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u can't abuse the engine lol its just using the engine its like saying crouch sweeps (in yellow) is an expliot cos it does huge dmg and it has huge defence _______________ Is back and badder then ever |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Quote: there is nothing wrong with poking and wiggling its not dishonorable to use what is dishonorable is when people cry and complain about it. if the designers had wanted to get rid of this they would of but they can't because it is part of their velocity engine. if you want to say its dishonorable to use it then fine but its only using the engine to its full capacity and using everything it has to offer. if u wish to flame me then do so i don't care but ur in a very one minded community it has some cool people in it but you shouldn't all be so one minded about what is right and wrong. Lofl. Meant to use it? Its not using the velocity engine, its abusing it. theres a difference. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Kano - Student
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there is nothing wrong with poking and wiggling its not dishonorable to use what is dishonorable is when people cry and complain about it. if the designers had wanted to get rid of this they would of but they can't because it is part of their velocity engine. if you want to say its dishonorable to use it then fine but its only using the engine to its full capacity and using everything it has to offer. if u wish to flame me then do so i don't care but ur in a very one minded community it has some cool people in it but you shouldn't all be so one minded about what is right and wrong. _______________ Is back and badder then ever |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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I disagree, Kano. I'm sure there are many people who can beat pokes and wiggles using legitimate means and still don't support them. They exploit obvious holes in the game and give you an illegitimate advantage over people who choose to play fairly. They may require a lot of practice to get right, but that doesn't make them any less of an exploit. Being really good at them is all well and good, if not impressive, but using them is another thing. Not being able to beat a move does not qualify as a good reason for calling it an exploit; the fact that the move exploits a glitch in the game does. When I first started playing the game, I was beaten by a simple right swing almost every time I played and never thought of it as an exploit. Abusing a hole in the game to gain a clear advantage over your opponent is dishonourable. |
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Wicek - Nugget 
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Masta xDDDDD My second favourite fruit is poke. |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: many people don't like people who do this becuase they can't win because they don't unstand the move and how to do it effectivly http://flag.blackened.net/kara/political/che/pictures/che83.jpeg _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Jul 20 2006 02:56pm. |
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Kano - Student
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learning how to sploit is not a bad thing and using them is not a bad thing. if u come up against someone who is poking and wiggling it can sometimes be difficult to counter so using poke and wiggle back is the best way if u really care about. i know how to wiggle and to poke and they are both difficult to do well and need different skills to use well. the "poke" is a good move where by turning your charater you keep your saber in the same place in order to cause maximum dmg in one swing which needs a great deal of aim. wiggling is a simple technique where the person wil through out a swing and then wiggle is to increase the velocity of the saber and also making it pass throught the enemies body many times this move is easier then poke but u do need to hav good movement skills to give yourself the best chance of landing it well. there is also a third move which only the people who are very skilled do which is a combination of the both they will through out a swing and poke it and then wiggle it once it has reached the height of the swing. oh well gg =P if u wanna learn and use them i don't see anythign wrong many people don't like people who do this becuase they can't win because they don't unstand the move and how to do it effectivly. _______________ Is back and badder then ever |
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{JF}Jesse - Student |
Quote: the thing about poking etc. "exploits" is that too many players now have either learned theese tacitcs too early in their "jka development" OR used them so long that they have come to rely on them over other tactics. Certain players never fully developed their movement abilities and certain other players have let their movement skill degrade heavily because they came to rely on the pokeing to get saber blocks instead of actually dodgeing their opponents saber. If you so choose to poke etc. do at least make sure that you develop other fundamentals prior to spamming sploits and dont forget how you played the game before you used wiggles as well.  well said |
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JK13 /// jaws. - Student 
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the thing about poking etc. "exploits" is that too many players now have either learned theese tacitcs too early in their "jka development" OR used them so long that they have come to rely on them over other tactics. Certain players never fully developed their movement abilities and certain other players have let their movement skill degrade heavily because they came to rely on the pokeing to get saber blocks instead of actually dodgeing their opponents saber. If you so choose to poke etc. do at least make sure that you develop other fundamentals prior to spamming sploits and dont forget how you played the game before you used wiggles as well. _______________ It's a false hologram, it IS artificial... |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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tbh, i dont hear that at all, people, like it or not seem to presume if you do, have ever, or are starting to, Poke, you are automaticly 'bad' they seem to think you rely on it, i will freely admit i can and have sploited, yet i know how to duel to a certain extent without it. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Dacascos - Lowly Urchin 
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<3 the anti poke attitude. however. If you like to be good at playing the game like the JA wants you to play it, namely, as it should be without exploiting bugs etc, don't use it. If you just care about winning duels, (Which is completely up to yourself, don't let anyone tell you otherwise) sploit away. Using sploits doesn't mean you suck, or wouldn't win without, like you'll hear from most people. You just play like you choose to play. Which is different. that's all. Have a nice day. _______________ PSN: Argantes XBL: Ravencloak My destiny lies where my fate leads me... |
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AvaloN - Student 
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Quote: alot of those awesome leet bois on duel servers seem to 'train' poke rather than aim..which is why they're rubbish, as well as annoying. Indeed, your basis should always be aim. Some people add poke/wiggle for the offensive/defensive boost. Others tho use poke/wiggle to make up for their lack of proper aim. This may work to some degree, but will only get you so far. Moral of the story: it pays off to train up your aim/jump/movement skills, especially in the long run. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Quote: alot of those awesome leet bois on duel servers seem to 'train' poke rather than aim..which is why they're rubbish, as well as annoying. good days eh fox  _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Fox - Student |
alot of those awesome leet bois on duel servers seem to 'train' poke rather than aim..which is why they're rubbish, as well as annoying. _______________ Training partner of "Ðark" Lover of "Moonwalker" Dancing partners with "Avalon" |
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Lauq - Student |
Hmm Kk, I won't bother learning it. _______________ One of the 4 council masters who belong to <<FE>>. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Liking and learning are 2 different things, with no disrespect to anyone, the academy is extremely paranoid about exploits, worth learning? IOd say so. worth using? No. learn it to know how you would play with it, how others would do so... thats my 2 cent anyway _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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SaZ - Student
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it is worth to learn only under one rule - to be good you must learn everything your opponent knows. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Poke and Wiggle don't worry if you make mistake, somebody will say for you something. Poke and Wiggle somebodies see that way of art, somebodies don't. Get confused and you will learn.  _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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No body likes a poker here, so i doubt one would get many duels, although Im sure you could get someone here to teach you sploitz if you wanted. But if you realy want to test yourself don't rely on glichez, remember it's not about winning, no one cares about your frag count except you. GL HF  _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. This comment was edited by Jade Jedi on May 06 2006 11:00pm. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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Wiggles and pokes seriously exploit the game engine to a level I really doubt the game developers would have intended. They really aren't worth learning if you want to play the game clean. There are a good amount of people who won't have very much respect for somebody using them. But to my knowledge, there aren't currently very many that use them here at all, and any that do aren't very active on the academy's servers. |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Wiggle and poke are the very same things. The english speaking jk3 players confuse those 2 terms easily, due to the word "poke" beeing usually associated with the verb "to poke". However, the jk3 term "poke" doesnt have any relation to the english verb "to poke", it was actually invented and used by european players to describe the technique you know as "wiggling" and originates from the word "pokemon" instead. Oh and nope, its not worth learning. =D _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on May 06 2006 10:09pm. |
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