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doobie - Jedi Council  |
As most of you know (or who know who I am), I'm pretty much a silent partner in the JA at this point, but that doesn't mean I don't care. So here's what I'm wondering... in the absence of a new Jedi Knight game (c'mon Lucasarts, hook us up!), what can we do to keep the JA alive and thriving? Do we expand into other games? Do we simply exist the way were are as a "family" and accept that the training part is diminished as the game fade away a bit (let's be honest, it's been over 3 years since JK:JA came out)? Let me know what you think and how we can keep this place alive and keep the awesomeness that's been around for almost 4 years going well into the future. _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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yee right 
bring the old temple map back, we can teach these new n00bs the way to jump the entire room  _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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I only lost kickfights due to lag/drunkenness/watching pr0n midfight. Cmon Monteh...
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Orion - Retired 
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Quote: I'm too lazy to scroll down and see who talked about Quake I with AA and bloom, etc. Quake has a MAJOR advantage: The source code has been out for at least a couple of years. JK2/JA source code: out since....well never.
I've also noticed that theres no JK2-era staff left (DAMN YOU REORGANISATION). I suppose the staff around could try to bring it (JK2) back but I guess I'd probably be like "bah this is all staged with you damn kids and your rap music." As for JK2 classes: someone just needs to ask and I'll run my kickfighting, explosives, and blue stance classes. I guess what needs to happen is people need to stay interested, and what better way than...well...never mind. Still, I'm excited for a JK2 revitalisation. Damn you kids and your rap music, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!! _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
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aph3x - Retired 
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ill enroll in the kickfight class! but ill win. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget
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silk u cant kick fight i was the kick king along with kickboy lol _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones
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I'm too lazy to scroll down and see who talked about Quake I with AA and bloom, etc. Quake has a MAJOR advantage: The source code has been out for at least a couple of years. JK2/JA source code: out since....well never.
I've also noticed that theres no JK2-era staff left (DAMN YOU REORGANISATION). I suppose the staff around could try to bring it (JK2) back but I guess I'd probably be like "bah this is all staged with you damn kids and your rap music." As for JK2 classes: someone just needs to ask and I'll run my kickfighting, explosives, and blue stance classes. I guess what needs to happen is people need to stay interested, and what better way than...well...never mind. Still, I'm excited for a JK2 revitalisation. _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Jarhok Belouve - Student 
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I see, as many people have pointed out before me that everything except a suitable new game/mod is just a temporary fix/stopgap for the unactiveness/enthusiasm in the JA. I havnt played JK:JA in ages and since I got my new pc I havnt even installed it yet. Obviously waiting around on a game isnt really a great option. Modding wise, Having played pretty much all the recent games I reckon a Dark Messiah mod would be the best bet, as its melee system is the best I have ever played and its the most fun. Not to mention the endless possiblities of the physics engine and the adaptation of the 'telekenesis' spell into a 'force' and lightning shot etc. Of course I make it sound so easy, but I have really no idea of how much coding and work that would require, but certainly mapping wise at first only a simple layout map with existing textures would be fine.
It certainly would be great to be playing with everyone here again, I love this place and it certainly has a place in my heart. oh and Hello again everybody  _______________ -JARHOK BELOUVE- Unofficial Paddy to the great Squibit Belouve and Solitudes snog machine! |||||||||||||||||||||||PRONOUNCED JARHOK TEH S3X3H by Alexander D'kana||||||||||||||||||||||||| Loves Liso'sia! Uber new Belouve boy! My special people: Squibit Belouve,Roan Belouve,Bail Hope Belouve and of course the lovely Liso'sia! |
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Malak - Student 
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Quote: Im thinking of changing this weeks Saturday Fun Session to the [JA]Home server, who would be interested?
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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Im thinking of changing this weeks Saturday Fun Session to the [JA]Home server, who would be interested? _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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Quote: I agree Masta, but that's the best I can come up with. This is a tough situation.
It is indeed a tough situation. The only real possible successful long term change that could be made is switching games. The only problem is there is currently no star wars game out that meets the criteria of the JA, so the only option would be to chose a non SW game. That is where the main problem lies. You could never get everyone to all agree on a new game to shift focus to. People probably do not want to hear what I am about to say next but sadly is a possible future. If the JA does not find a new game or some way to make jk2/jk3 successful again in the near future, the JA will most likely slowly deteriorate and have very few active members left. It is already started to happen. The servers have not been near as active as they have been in the past I ask everyone to be open to change because if you are not the JA will slowly crumble until no one is left. This comment was edited by Tallepyon on Jan 17 2007 03:33am. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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I agree Masta, but that's the best I can come up with. This is a tough situation. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Quote: Well, what times are best for everybody?
Well i won't be free at all really until after the 25th at the earliest, stupid exams. 
To address Masta's comments: Personally i wasn't really thinking of this idea in the long term. I agree that it won't completley re-energise TJA, however i think that even if it only draws players back for a week it will be worth it, after that we'll just have to think of something else to keep everyone entertained.
I quite like some of the ideas being put forward here, however i think that in order for this to be truly succesful then it needs to grab the attention of the newer members, members who play JK3 primarily, if the JAK+ could arrange a series of events that cover a week (some tournements do work), and make it more than just a case of playing JKII again, then hopefully the 'event' will get the numbers it needs to prove succesful. A class for JKII could be part of this, it would only have to run for a week or so, depending on interest, yet it would offer something a little different from the current norm. However this really needs to be put forward as a news bulletin if the staff are serious about trying the idea, it is much more likely to fail if the only information and q & a is in this thread in my opinion. /endofwaffle _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Well, what times are best for everybody? |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Personally, i cannot see how this is supposed to be the saving grace for the JA. Re-trying the implementation of a concept which has failed countless of times in the past seems to be quite a risky endeavour, and i'd estimate the chances for success minimal at best.
Most of the periodical jk2-resurrection movements are met with great public support at first, and mostly climax even before anysort of action has been taken. The general euphoria and momentum caused by such resurfacing of nostalgia usually doesn't even make it past the first week. In this case, the rolling snowball shatters on the smallest stone. Quote: Maybe if we had some publicity from the JAC's and other JAT's it would pick up more recognition. That would definatly help it flourish a bit. Yes, but would it suffice? For how long would it be able to stabilize interest and activity in jk2 - especially with people getting seriously bored with jka already?
I'd estimate that even if you guys would mostly succeed, the jk2 servers would show sporadic activity for maximal a month or so ~ and would return to being completely abandoned right after; putting us back into the very situation we're in atm. However, i cannot say that i have a better idea myself. Sadly, most of the multiplayer-compatible SW games out there don't seem to be on par with jka quality-wise etc... _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Jade Jedi - Retired
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Quote: Hi everyone.
We have a dedicated JK2 server, it's called [JA]Home and it's always up, check the servers page.Yes, me again. I personally think you should go one more step further and dedicate one of the servers back to Jedi Outcast. So we don't just have to play the game at class times, but whenever we feel like it. Of course it'll be a problem picking a server. if it's in America, people from Europe will have sucky pings and vice versa. But after some discussion, I'm sure that we can come to a conclusion fairly easy. I'm always up for a fight in JK2 to be honest!  _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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i'd do my counters class if required, JAC's or w/e talk to me on MSN or something if u need _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Hi everyone.
Yes, me again. I personally think you should go one more step further and dedicate one of the servers back to Jedi Outcast. So we don't just have to play the game at class times, but whenever we feel like it. Of course it'll be a problem picking a server. if it's in America, people from Europe will have sucky pings and vice versa. But after some discussion, I'm sure that we can come to a conclusion fairly easy. I'm always up for a fight in JK2 to be honest! _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Well i was on JA home for about 20 minutes and no one showed.
What we need is a JAT who's been around a while to host a JK2 class. Xanatos tried to last year but it didnt work. Maybe if we had some publicity from the JAC's and other JAT's it would pick up more recognition. That would definatly help it flourish a bit. C'mon Staff, we need some red/yellow/blue stance classes and maybe a movement class
Edit: I just noticed that all the instructors are from the JK3 Era. Maybe a reason things got a little quiet here is because the upper-management totally focused on JK3, hence the stirring of oldbies at the name of JK2. Time to get some JK2 instructors! _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jan 16 2007 09:08pm. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: It's been a few years now, with the manpower and intelligence that has been gathered throughout the years, im surprised a custom game hasn't been created yet.
its kinda surprising indeed. i feel envious when i see what tricks the quake community are creating... from uber mods to insane conversions and graphic improvements (quake 1 with bloom,antialiasing etc. anyone?) _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Lightning Rod - Retired 
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jk2 reunion huh? lol...damn seems like fun but...i can't say i still have my install cd's. (not that i'd want them anyway) lol Don't think ill be dropping in for this one.. However, i am curious... It's been a few years now, with the manpower and intelligence that has been gathered throughout the years, im surprised a custom game hasn't been created yet. I know this is possible, even better, more catered to the academy. Who knows, maybe even more fun _______________ Whatcha gonna do when the Rodster runs wild on you!? Roddymania is still runnin wild! |
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SaZ - Student
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jk2 home = us server? _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Quote: or better yet, "say no to crap saber systems, play JK2"
I agree! I'm willing to bust it out and learn some single saber. When the bots come back, I can easily re-add the jk2 server on the serverscan _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist This comment was edited by R2D2 on Jan 16 2007 05:07pm. |
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Kaelis - On Leave 
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Sounds like a plan to me JO ftw _______________ Padawan of Roan Belouve, brother to Acura, Proud to be part of the Belouve Dynasty, Proud Owner of Jarhok's 430th comment, Dash Starlights 1600th comment, Saz's 5000th comment and Alex D'Kanas 2100 comment |
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aph3x - Retired
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Someone with photoshop skills should rip off like World War I or II propaganda posters and make a "Say no to multiple saber types.
THIS IS AN AWESOME IDEA! I'd like to mention that the single saber is also "broken" with JKA along with the mutiple saber styles, some stances more than others. JK2's saber system is much more consistent and free of any saber "exploits," but happens not to have any multiple saber types. You should be focusing your interest on bringing back JK2's cleaner, glitch-free saber combat system instead of thinking that eliminating multiple saber types is the solution to this problem. JK2 just happens not to have staff and duals. ok, then we'll change it to "say no to multiple saber types unless you are going to release a game that does it properly" //edit or better yet, "say no to crap saber systems, play JK2" This comment was edited by aph3x on Jan 16 2007 07:11am. |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Someone with photoshop skills should rip off like World War I or II propaganda posters and make a "Say no to multiple saber types.
THIS IS AN AWESOME IDEA! I'd like to mention that the single saber is also "broken" with JKA along with the mutiple saber styles, some stances more than others. JK2's saber system is much more consistent and free of any saber "exploits," but happens not to have any multiple saber types. You should be focusing your interest on bringing back JK2's cleaner, glitch-free saber combat system instead of thinking that eliminating multiple saber types is the solution to this problem. JK2 just happens not to have staff and duals. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist This comment was edited by R2D2 on Jan 16 2007 06:16am. |
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