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We want to shake things up a little bit here at thejediacademy.net, and one of the ways we want to achieve this is by broadening our horizons a little bit.
We have two thriving guilds in Star Wars: The Old Republic, but we're fully aware that MMO games aren't for everyone. We're also aware that the Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy community is not what it once was. So, in order to broaden our horizons, we want to find out what everyone is playing these days, as we want to accommodate you guys as best we can and give you what you need to enjoy our fantastic community. Star Wars gaming is obviously our first priority, but there's absolutely no reason why we can't, for example, run events, tournaments, classes or even servers for games that you guys enjoy. So, let's hear it! What are you guys playing? What games would you like to see us support? Reply to this thread and let us know, as well as any other suggestions or ideas you might have. Thanks guys! |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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You people give me ulcers. CLUNK. |
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Wicek - Nugget 
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So can I call you an idiot? I played JKA recently. Or will there be a specific rule to play CTF JKA.
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Hugo - Student 
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Once we finish a few things regarding the website content, we'll be doing some kind of tournament (with a PRIZE OMGZ) and then we'll organise some sort of ladder.
No. Idiot People who haven't played JK:JA for ages, don't count. So I will ignore that comment. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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Once we finish a few things regarding the website content, we'll be doing some kind of tournament (with a PRIZE OMGZ) and then we'll organise some sort of ladder.
No. Idiot _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are 
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Hugo - Student
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Once we finish a few things regarding the website content, we'll be doing some kind of tournament (with a PRIZE OMGZ) and then we'll organise some sort of ladder.
No. Oh, well damn Hugo, I'm sorry. Would you like the keys to the place? I want world domination 
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planK - Jedi Council 
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Once we finish a few things regarding the website content, we'll be doing some kind of tournament (with a PRIZE OMGZ) and then we'll organise some sort of ladder.
No. Oh, well damn Hugo, I'm sorry. Would you like the keys to the place? |
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Hugo - Student
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Quote: Once we finish a few things regarding the website content, we'll be doing some kind of tournament (with a PRIZE OMGZ) and then we'll organise some sort of ladder.
No. |
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planK - Jedi Council
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Once we finish a few things regarding the website content, we'll be doing some kind of tournament (with a PRIZE OMGZ) and then we'll organise some sort of ladder. |
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Hugo - Student
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Quote: so you guys playing jka or what
Always. |
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Komence - Student 
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so you guys playing jka or what |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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oh heck. I have allready said my reasons at IRC and I want to avoid misconceptions so I won't post anything related to this subject anymore. It works for me and whatever works for you, It is fine.
Also we need to get back to the topic.  _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Hugo - Student 
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I still stay on my opinion that all are casual gamers. I disagree because there are very distinct and important differences that you seem to ignore, but I don't know if this is relevant to the discussion at hand. *highfive* |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: I still stay on my opinion that all are casual gamers. I disagree because there are very distinct and important differences that you seem to ignore, but I don't know if this is relevant to the discussion at hand. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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I still stay on my opinion that all are casual gamers. _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Hugo - Student
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Quote: Successive troll attempt is successive. Don't worry hugo, I was just kidding. The distinction is useless anyways.
lol, np. My bad, couldn't tell, because of all the seriousness in this topic  |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Successive troll attempt is successive. Don't worry hugo, I was just kidding. The distinction is useless anyways. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Hugo - Student
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Quote: @ Maher: You see, because actively competing is a necessary condition for being a 'competitive player', people like Hugo are still casuals because they have never actively competed in serious ladders/tournaments like the ESL before.
You gonna act like a bitch, you gonna look like a bitch
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Masta - Jedi Council
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@ Maher: You see, because actively competing is a necessary condition for being a 'competitive player', people like Hugo are still casuals because they have never actively competed in serious ladders/tournaments like the ESL before. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Hugo - Student
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But, back on topic, since Plaaank wanted to know what games we all play 
I play a ton of different games, but at the moment mostly: JK:JA sabering, ctfpug JK2 1.02/1.04 ctfpug Quake Live / 4 / world Urban Terror 4.1 / HD Tribes Vengeance / Ascend Soldier of Fortune II Xonotic, UT2004 I'm into first and third person shooters as you may have noticed. Not that much into real time strategy games, I might like such games, as they are also hugely based on 'the mind game' aspect of gaming (which I really like). But I can't afford another addiction atm. I do watch a lot of e-sports though, and follow all game news / competitions, as I imagine a lot of you guys also do. JK:JA sabering further mainly consists out of managing Terminative 3, developing the International Gaming League (IGL), creating ctfpug tournaments and live streaming plus I'm on my way of helping IGL out in the JK:JA support section as also live streaming (game analyzing). My work at t3 largely also consists out of theory development, opensaber (mod development), map creation support, video editing / creation, managing, article writing, demo tutorial creation, file database collecting and hosting, leading t3 as an open education centre, teaching classes weekly and helping people in their personal development and forwarding new people to the places that will fit their needs (casual gamers, serious gamers etc.). The games I spend the most time into are: Jedi Knight Academy, Tribes Vengeance and Urban Terror 4.1. Always promoting JK:JA and ('serious') gaming 
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Hugo - Student
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Quote: I guess what you called 'serious' gaming I would think of as competitive play, that is playing the game primarily with the intention to improve in terms of skill or compete in ladders/tournaments. The goal here is to become as good of a player as you can be, pushing your boundaries, challenging yourself, realizing your potential and developing mastery.
Although it is true that barely anyone here at any point in time has had that mindset, the Aurochs for example were a group comprised of (mostly) competitive players. I've been a competitive player for my entire life and remain one in sc2; Vision and Wicek were and still are competitive players too, the latter of which has played WoW at the highest level for years. That's what floats our boat. Mwyep, I agree with: "The goal here is to become as good of a player as you can be, pushing your boundaries, challenging yourself, realizing your potential and developing mastery.". That definition as serious gaming. I would not necessarily add 'competitive gaming' to it. A large majority of the competitive scene often doesn't really have a serious attitude when it comes to the previously mentioned points. But yes, quite often these skills are found in a competitive scene, because there is an external goal that turn people on to also push themselves. Less often you find people doing that where there is no competition, but I'd say there's also enough of those kind of serious gamers. So I'd say, self-development is important, and playing the game from a serious point of view. As in, analysing yourself and others, trying to understand the game, not necessarily trying to be the best, but trying to gain as much control and understanding over what the game and the community has to offer. All that is serious business! versus:
Hanging around, messing around, now and then setting a goal to achieve and slowly - not actively, by pushing yourself, analyzing constantly and actively putting all the time you got into it - getting better and enjoying the game as it was made for you to enjoy by the game developers (low learning curve) or just playing the game without wanting to really improve, and settling with what you are doing and already can do, and enjoying that = casual gaming.
edit: Serious gaming = pushing yourself constantly to improve and understand the game, +/- getting better to do well in competition. Often this is done by putting a lot of time into the game and related communities. Aspects that also are involved in a professional attitude in real life often will be applied here too: time-management, methodical thinking / works, theory development, game analyzing, team building, technical knowledge of the game and in e-sports often on a pro gaming level money and sponsors are involved as also a lot more training to play more solid under pressure in competition. However, competition isn't a must. Often a more serious approach can be found in professional competition though. People who game more seriously often game at least 4+ hours a day, where as they are only busy with improving and understanding quickly and in a constructive way to play competition or teach others, or to develop oneself. Casual gaming = settling with what you can already do in a game after a small period of learning, or learning pretty slowly. Not really intended to play any real competition, but merely to just hang around, escape reality and enjoy the game itself or people that do the same. Often the skills you learn from other casual gamers are tricks with general knowledge. It's not really constructive in any sense, and doesn't really work towards any real goal (actively). Eventually you may achieve self-development goals, but they are not set as a primary goal that you are actively busy with, also when it is not enjoyable to do. People who do play competition but play like 30 minutes a day or just when they got time to relax, also are countable under this definition of course. Also here competition can be going on, but is no must. I hope you get the general idea btw. It's not about giving a rock solid definition. Just what I consider it to be, in large lines.
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Then you create too simple of a dichotomy. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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In my mind competitive gaming is casual gaming  _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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I guess what you called 'serious' gaming I would think of as competitive play, that is playing the game primarily with the intention to improve in terms of skill or compete in ladders/tournaments. The goal here is to become as good of a player as you can be, pushing your boundaries, challenging yourself, realizing your potential and developing mastery.
Although it is true that barely anyone here at any point in time has had that mindset, the Aurochs for example were a group comprised of (mostly) competitive players. I've been a competitive player for my entire life and remain one in sc2; Vision and Wicek were and still are competitive players too, the latter of which has played WoW at the highest level for years. That's what floats our boat. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Mar 24 2012 11:15am. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Just out of interested and It is related to topic,
What's serious gaming? It is more like enjoying your time in games or It is more like working hard 24/7 to learn gaming? or how about just discovering the game at your own time and space? What defines serious gaming and casual gaming? Because I dare to say that we all are casual gamers _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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planK - Jedi Council
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Hugo, the about us page is massively outdated and will be updated within the week. I'm in the process of rewriting it, amongst many other things that fall under the "tja getting itself together" category.
If people are here because they're Star Wars fans and only casual gamers, they are welcome. If they're a hardcore gamer with a passive interest in the star wars IP, they are also welcome. The only prerequisite to being a member of this website is "don't be a moron." I am doing my absolute best to insure this place has a strong future that accommodates as many people's wants/needs as possible. I'm a bit bummed at how this thread went, but I also appreciate the feedback and criticisms. This place has been far from perfect, but I we've established a general awareness of the JAK+'s past mistakes. However, I am mostly focusing on the positives. Positive mental attitude ftw. |
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